Mc Richard Paglicawan
A video of a priest humiliating a 17-year-old single mother during the baptism of her son last Sunday, July 6, has been circulating online, after the baby’s grandmother uploaded it on her Facebook account hours after the baptismal rite. The baptism happened at the Sacred Heart Chaplaincy of the Redemptorist Church in Barangay Jagobiao, Mandaue City where the priest named Fr. Romeo Obach of the Congregation of the Most Holy Redeemer delivered a sermon about Kaye being a single mother. “It’s humiliating to have a baptism without a husband. You slept with a man that is not your husband? Aren’t you ashamed?,” said by the priest during his sermon.
The said the video which is 2:03 minutes long and shows Kaye standing and holding her baby while Fr. Obach was delivering his sermon, was taken by Jovielyn’s 12-year-old daughter, who she said ‘accidentally’ captured the priest’s tirades.
Fr. Obach was captured telling Kaye and those who were present during the baptism:
“Ayaw mo pagsunod sa hiwi nga binuhatan, nga mosugot lang mo nga modug sa lalaki nga di pa ninyo bana. Ingon ana ba diay ang atong pagtulon-an sa simbahan? Kaning bata, walay ni sala pero ang mga babae ug lalaki nga magdug nga wala pa sa kasal, maoy nagpuyo sa sala. Mapasa usab sa bata ang disgrasya. Hinaot pa nga dili kay naghappy-happy ug naglingaw-lingaw mo kay naay bata. O grasya ni pero nabuhat ni siya sa sala. Wala ni siya buhata sa…Naminyo ba ka, Day? (Girl shakes head) O, tan-awa, maayo ba ni siya nga Kristiyanos? Ipanghambog ba ta ni, Day? Nga naa kay anak pero wa kay bana? Kaulaw ani, Day. Motago gani unta ka karon, kay naa kas simbahan, makaulaw. Kay magpabunyag ka nga wa kay bana, nakigdug ka og laki nga di nimo bana. Nakadungog ka nako, Day? Di ka mauwaw? Dako kaayo ng uwaw. Nya kamo, mosunod mo? Mobikangkang mo sa laki nga mokuhit ninyo? Mao na nga makauwaw ni. Busa kaning bata-a, magpuyo ni sa grasya kay gibunyagan man siya. Ikaw gibunyagan ka pero wa nimo tumana ang imong mga saad sa bunyag. Hinaot ning bataa nga motubo nga motuman sa iyang mga saad sa bunyag. Hiwi ka, yabag ka. Hinaot pa naay uban nga motabang aron di na mayabag ang bata sama nimo nga di mosunod sa pagtulun-an ni Hesus.”
(Don’t follow wrong deeds, allowing yourself to sleep with a man who is not your husband. Is that what the church has taught you? This child did not sin, but the man and the woman who slept together unwed are the ones who are living in sin. The child will bear the mistake. Hope you’ll think that this is not just about being happy and amused because the child is here. Yes, this is grace, but conceived through sin. This was not done through…Were you married, Day? (Girl shakes head) Oh, see, is she a good Christian? Is this something you can be proud of, Day? That you have a child, but have no husband? This is shameful, Day. You should have covered yourself, because you are in church, shameful. Because you want this baptism even without a husband, you slept with a man who was not your husband. Can you hear me, Day? Aren’t you ashamed? This is so shameless. And you (addresses crowd), are you going to follow what she did? Will you spread your legs for a man you barely know? That’s why this is shameful. This child will live in grace because he is baptized. You, on the other hand, was baptized but you did not fulfill the promise of baptism. Hope this child will grow to follow his baptismal promise. You are crooked. I hope that some people will help you and enlighten you so your child will grow up following Christ’s teachings, which cannot be said of you.)
That was totally uncalled for. Shame on you priest. Shame on you.
Kailangan pa bang sabihin yan sa harap ng maramibg tao, eh andami namang pari na nagbibinyag sa mga nanay na walang asawa ah! Patanggal na lng ang paring yan,
Completely inappropriate!!! He’s suppose to just do the baptism and not SERMON! The priest was there to welcome and celebrate this child’s life– no matter how he came into this world! Sino sya para sirain itong espesyal na araw na Ito para sa bata, sa nanay Nya at mga pamilya at kaibigan na nandodoon? Kung nandoon ako– I would have said something sa priest na yan. Completely rude and uncalled for yung ginawa Nya. What a shame! He needs to make a public apology for what he’s done.
Deuteronomy 22:20-21
grabe now palang ako nakakita ganyan ka bastos na pari:( dapat kinausap nlg nya one on one ang mother ksi if ako yang babae mag walk-out nlg ako!grabe nmn father you should always remember na mali ang magpahiya sa kapwa mu tao! we are just all human,at correct me if im wrong nagkamali ka rin nmn sa buhay mu!kaya wag po taung magpaka perfect!
shame on you priest! We are all sinners in the eyes of God and you don’t have the right to humiliate anybody else regardless of status. Remember when Jesus first met Mary Magdalene…. What did Jesus say to the crowd? That is a wrong move mr. priest. Seems that you don’t study pastoral counseling in your theology classes.
kalami ra patyon anang paria ahh.nganong napari man nang PUTANG INANG PARI na yan..asa man ni cya dapit kay bisaya man ni..lami kaayong bitayon.nga iya man gipakaulawan ang mama sa bata,instead iya untang maymayan kanang sila lang duha.PUTANG INA KA PADRI.
As Jesus Christ has pointed out, He came to show mercy and not to mete out justice. This priest must’ve been absent when this particular biblical passage was discussed in the seminary.
The priest is right to what he had done, this is the teaching of the church to live in righteousness, just like a parents, he scolded us because we did wrong we are in the house of God the church and we have the face to see him after doing the wrong…. Shame on us people who do wrong and still go to church.
What?! “Shame on us who do wrong and still go to church”??!!
What is the church for? You think the church is for those who are righteous? It is as if saying that the hospital is for those who are healthy. The sinners are the ones who needs to go to church to commune with our Creator and find healing of our sinful souls. Just like the hospital to those who are sick to see the doctor and be healed..
Please be reminded of that..
(John 8:7) “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”
Priest, are you without sin? HYPOCRITE!
kapal ng mukha ng pari. lakas makapangaral….eh baka nga sya eh may tinatago din kasalanan…sabi nga ni Kristo “Kung sino ang walang bahid ng kasalanan, syang pumukol ng bato sa babaeng ito!” kung ako ginanyan, makakatikim sya ng sumbong sa CBCP….bastos at walang modong pari! pari ka pa naman! hindi sya diyos para pagsabihan o hiyain ng ganyan yung babae..
malalaman din ng CBCP ito..wait for a suspension hipokritong pari.
grabe,sa harap ng nakararami,kahihiyan ung ginawa mo father”bakit kailangan mo pang ipaalam sa buong mundo na hindi katangap-tanggap o karadapat na binyagan kesyo walang asawa,walang kasal wala sa lugar yung ginagawa nia,puwede nia namang sabihin in private kailangan talaga public..para malaman ng lahat na maksalanan ung ginawa nia?bakit di ba cia nagkamali at makasermon wagas ha..no one is perfect father”sana naman matauhan ka sa mga sinasabi mo.naksulat ba un sa bible.di naman ata kasama sa 10 commandments un..peace be with u father patawarin ka sana ni LORD.
What a JERK, let me ask this priest. Which is more unacceptable have the baby baptized or have an abortion? Being a priest doesn’t make you better than us. You’re suppose to teach us the value of being a better Christians. Heto pa po isa pang tanong? Eh saan po ba napupunta ang donations? Sa Simbahan po ba o Sa Bulsa nyo? Nowadays being a priest is like being a politician…..
…the priest did exhort the mother…that is his obligation….tama lang na nireremind ni Father yung mother….it is called for kasi tung baptism is infusing grace into the new born…and here now is the mother who did not live accordingly….ang suliranin sa tao e ayaw nya maremind sya ng shortcomings nya… so defensive and goes on forum shopping to seek rescue from others who react reflexively…hmmm…humans who would to interpret everything from their perspective of convenience…the world is getting wayward…each one interpreting the sense of right and wrong as it suits his or her personal convenience…..
he may be right telling us to live righteous but he dont have right to humiliate people! he dont have any license to do that! he never know what really happened what if this grl experience rape or any harrasment.. and bravely choose to continue pregnancy and not do abortion! its not being defensive its about you applying HUMANITY! the grl is a sinner that’s a fact.. bt he reminded them on the wrong way
This priest needs a good fuck.
kala mo kung sino,kala mo perfekto kahit pari pa sya hindi karin pekrikto! pwede mo naman kausapin o sermonan ang babae na yan nang kayo lang, hindi sa harap nang maraming tao o ipahiya sya…..kaya maraming tuloy lumilipat sa ibang reliheyon dahil din sa inyo (father).
wow. grbe lang ung pari. Kelangan ba sbihin sa harap ng maraming tao un? Magbibinyag ka ho, nde ho manenermon. grbe lang. Pari ka pa man din tapos ganyan ginagawa mo. Feeling mo kina-perpekto mo yan? Edi sana tinulungan mo na lang sya manumbalik sa Panginoon, hindi ganyan namamahiya ka. Akala mo kung sinong matuwid.
Judgement by priest to the woman and then We judge the priest. How hypocrite of Us. GALATIANS 6:7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. (GOD only)
Kung pag-iisipang mabuti, yung nanay na kumuha at nagkalat ng video ang tunay na nagpahiya sa sarili niyang anak at apo.
palagay ko po sa panahon ngayon na maraming case na single mother, hindi na po yun ikinakahiya sa ngayon.
Father you should never had done that! you have lost more of your flock than what you gained!
“If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you” (Deuteronomy 22:20-21) BUT one can do this only if
“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” (John 8:7)
The Pope has previously spoken out to encourage priests to baptise the children of unmarried women in order to pass on the Christian faith, calling those who refuse ‘hypocrites’.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2538097/Pope-Francis-baptises-baby-unmarried-couple-Sistine-Chapel-Baptism-Of-The-Lord-mass-Vatican.html#ixzz36qHsxVU2
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WALA SYANG KWENTANG PARI! SINUSINOG NA ANG KALULUWA NYA SA IMPYERNO! YAN ANG ISANG PATUNAY NA MAY MGA BULAANG TAO! NA NANGANGARAL NG SALITA NG DIOS PERO HINDI SINASABUHAY ANG MGA TURO AT ARAL…
HINDI BA NYA NAALALA ANG TURO NG PANGINOONG HESUKRISTO NUNG PINAG BABATO NG MGA TAO SI MARIA MAGDALENA?? PAKI BALIK SA SEMINARYO ANG WALANG KWENTA AT MAPANIRANG PARI NA IYAN!
SANA MAALALA ITO NG PARI NA NAG BIGAY NG SERMON!
JOHN 8:7…They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground.…
SHAME ON YOU PRIEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pader, kamong mga pare nga mga bayot, di ba makaulaw pod mo?
Sana hindi na lang nya sinabi in public ang ganun pangaral, kong gusto nya na pangaralan yong nagpabinyag sana lang personal na kinausap na lang nya hindi yong isasali nya sa pangaral nya habang bumibinyag.. Hindi tama, alam nya ba ang pinagdaanan ng babae na yon? wala naman syang alam siguro.
Kung ako yong babae umalis na lang sana ako at punta sa ibang simbahan kesa pakinggan yang walang mudong pari na yan….and one thing kung gusto mong pangaralan yang babae dapat tinapos mo muna ang dapat mong taposin para kausapin mo nalang cy ng masinsinan dinaka tulong kapang pari….e yan nag kasala kapa tuloy!
Who the hell is that fucking Priest?! Written in the bible history Jesus didn’t judge marry magdalene, and you Priest? Your only a human your Not a GOD!!! People should name and shame that fucking Perfect Priest and it’s Fucking Parish Church!!! That is not a servant of God! That is hypocrites pretending to be Holy and Clean!!!
preaching is normal, but in this case the priest did something wrong, preaching the girl in front of many people is kinda inappropriate, consider the fact that he is a priest..
Pari man unta pro walay batasan..ngano nag pari paman ka kong ing.ana sng batasan nmo..
Mas nakakahiya ka father, ang aral ni kuya God wag kang manakit ng kapwa at ikaw ay maituturing na mabuting tao but what u did, pinahiya mo si ate, lahat ng tao pede nagkakamali, kung ang diyos marunong magpatawad ikaw pa kaya na tao lang..di bagay sayo suot mo, mahiya ka..
This is fcking outrageous, this priest is worse than the Romans
In a way.. Tama nmn po ung sabi ni father.. Ang ndi lng po tama eh ung approach n gnawa nya which its in front of many people, iba po kz ung nanenermon pang kalahatan s pino point out mo p ung name.. Its baptism, sna ginawa nlng nya ung ritwal n un, then ska nya kinausap ung nanay pr nkpg advice xa, sbi nga be civil.. Which i think ndi un alam ni father.. Kung nkkhiya ung nanay eh nkkhiya din nmn ung attiude ni father, pari po tyo ndi pr mang husga kundi pra ituro ang tamang daan.. Tama po ba?
HE is
catholic not a christian what can you expect
May point naman ang pari sa pangaral n’ya but he should have said that to the woman in private and not in public in the form of mockery.
He should have known better!
He could have given the woman an advice and at the same time showing mercy and love inspite of what she has done.
Pagpasensyahan niyo na c Father ( puwehh ) kulang lng sa kantot yan
Hey priest, shame on you! Mother Marry had Jesus without a husband does that make her a sinful lady? You are such a stupid fuck.
Galeng nman ng pari (??)…ibang klase……my attitude ka…makanermon ka bro ah..umayos ka..pari ka pa mandin naturingan..tsk tsk…
Sa lahat po ng nagbigay ng qoutes tungkol sa bible about Mary Magdalene.. reminder lang po na si father ay tao. Hindi sya si Hesus. Hindi komo pari ay walang karapatang magkasala. Tao pa rin sila na capable of doing sins. And may karapatan din silang pagsisihan ito, at sa palagay ko nag nagsisisi na din si father sa nagawa nya.. (Pero hindi po ako kumakampi kay father).
Tayong lahat ay nakakagawa ng mga bagay o nakapagsasalita ng hindi natin agad napag-iisipan kung anong ibubunga nito.
BAKLA YANG PARI NA YAN HINDI CGURO NAKAHADA YAN KAYA MAINIT ANG ULO.
It reminds me of this poem
Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus || Spoken Word: http://youtu.be/1IAhDGYlpqY
What if I told you Jesus came to abolish religion?
What if I told you voting Republican really wasn’t His mission?
What if I told you Republican doesn’t automatically mean Christian
And just because you call some people blind doesn’t automatically give you vision?
I mean, if religion is so great, why has it started so many wars?
Why does it build huge churches but fails to feed the poor?
Tells single moms God doesn’t love them if they’ve ever had a divorce
But in the Old Testament, God actually calls religious people whores
Religion might preach grace, but another thing they practice
Tend to ridicule God’s people; they did it to John the Baptist
They can’t fix their problems, and so they just mask it
Not realizing religion’s like spraying perfume on a casket
See, the problem with religion is it never gets to the core
It’s just behavior modification, like a long list of chores
Like, “Let’s dress up the outside, make it look nice and neat”
But it’s funny that’s what they used to do to mummies while the corpse rots underneath
Now I ain’t judging; I’m just saying, quit putting on a fake look
‘Cause there’s a problem if people only know you’re a Christian by your Facebook
I mean, in every other aspect of life, you know that logic’s unworthy
It’s like saying you play for the Lakers just because you bought a jersey
See, this was me too, but no one seemed to be on to me
Acting like a church kid while addicted to pornography
See, on Sunday I’d go to church, but Saturday getting faded
Acting if I was simply created to just have sex and get wasted
See, I spent my whole life building this facade of neatness
But now that I know Jesus, I boast in my weakness
Because if grace is water, then the Church should be an ocean
It’s not a museum for good people—it’s a hospital for the broken
Which means I don’t have to hide my failure; I don’t have to hide my sin
Because it doesn’t depend on me; it depends on Him
See, because when I was God’s enemy and certainly not a fan
He looked down and said, “I want that man.”
Which is why Jesus hated religion, and for it He called them fools
Don’t you see so much better than just following some rules
Now let me clarify—I love the Church, I love the Bible, and yes, I believe in sin
But if Jesus came to your church, would they actually let Him in?
See, remember He was called a glutton and a drunkard by religious men
But the Son of God never supports self-righteousness—not now, not then
Now back to the point—one thing is vital to mention
How Jesus and religion are on opposite spectrums
See, one’s the work of God, but one’s a man-made invention
See, one is the cure, but the other’s the infection
See, because religion says “do”; Jesus says “done”
Religion says “slave”; Jesus says “son”
Religion puts you in bondage, while Jesus sets you free
Religion makes you blind, but Jesus makes you see
And that’s why religion and Jesus are two different clans
Religion is man searching for God, Christianity is God searching for man
Which is why salvation is freely mine, and forgiveness is my own
Not based on my merits, but Jesus’ obedience alone
Because He took the crown of thorns, and the blood dripped down His face
He took what we all deserved—I guess that’s why you call it grace
And while being murdered, He yelled,
“Father, forgive them; they know not what they do.”
Because when He was dangling on that cross, He was thinking of you
And He absorbed all your sin, and He buried it in the tomb
Which is why I’m kneeling at the cross, saying, “Come on, there’s room”
So for religion—no, I hate it; in fact I literally resent it
Because when Jesus said, “It is finished,” I believe He meant it
Mattew 8:15-17
Dealing With Sin in the Church
15“If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.”
Mattew 8:15-17
Dealing With Sin in the Church
15“If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.”
Thank God we are saved only because of His grace because no one is perfect to be worthy to save except Jesus. This priest doesn’t live and teach the Gospel of grace but he teaches a false gospel of fear and exactly what the Bible warned us about.
Ephesians 2
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast.
Matthew 23:3-15
“Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted. “ But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.”