A photo of an old man named Napoleon Timonera holding a large signage, with names of his daughters, is getting a lot of attention lately with over 35,000 likes and 26,000 shares.
Timonera, a 73-year-old man from Iloilo, on a report from Coolbuster.net, is looking for his 4 daughters who are all professionals-with 2 of them working as doctors and the other 2 as nurses. He claims that his family neglected him in spite of what he has gone through to support them/
Earlier this year, a YouTube user under the name Golgo thirteen posted an interview video of Timonera. He said the he has been married and separated with Pacita Timonera, the mother of the 4 people he’s looking for. He is now living with another woman whom he did not name.
With all the murmurs and bashing online, Dr. Mic Ng, one of his daughters, finally broke her silence.
She recently released a statement to Pinoy Radio online:
Sad to know that there are really many people that would rather judge first before knowing the real story. They would rather hurt people rather than know the truth first. I pray that you yourselves are also blameless and have the right to judge.
I initially planned not to respond anymore and just keep quiet because this has been going on for almost 3 months already and we’re quite tired.
First of all, look at his poster, he says he is looking for his daughters, why then does he know our phone numbers? Answer: because HE KNOWS WHERE WE ARE and HE HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH US all these years. Why has he been in contact with us?Dahil HINDI NAMIN SYA PINABAYAAN. In spite of leaving us and having many mistresses already (the one he has today is his 4th), we have supported him financially, we have offered for him a place to stay.
Why then is he doing this to us? Because he has another family to support and he is old already. He has seen that in spite of the broken home he has given us, we have strove to rise above the problems and get a better life while the path that he has chosen has lead him to nowhere. Now he is asking a much larger amount, threatening us that if we did not give, papahiyain nya kami sa mga tao at sa media. He has been doing this over and over. Pag nag bigay kami, then hinto ang pananakot. We know that if we give in again this will last for a short time only. Pag naubos ang pera, balik uli sa pangba-blackmail sa amin.
So this is the interesting story of our lives that we have wished to keep to ourselves – because this should be a private matter. I don’t want to explain any no longer. I’m content that our friends and relatives know who we are and the real story and they have been supporting us through all these trying times.
Those who are bashing us, take time to think. Not all that you are seeing is the truth. Know the truth first. Before you judge, look inside you and ask yourselves. Kung anong panghuhusga ang ginawa nyo sa kapwa nyo, ganyan din ang ipapataw sa inyo. Have pity on my mother who is old already – and we’re taking care of her. She is the hero in this story but the one being praised now is the man who left us and is crediting all our achievements to himself.
By the way, ang asawa ko ang nagpatapos sa akin.
So thank you everyone for giving us your thoughts. Thank God that you have not gone through what we went through and what we are going through now.
God bless you all.
This account was supported by Alex Andre, an errand boy working at HotSpot Net Lounge and Snack Bar. He said that Timonera never had a permanent job. And when his daughters were still in high school, he decided to leave the family. He was able to work abroad (Saudi) by faking his documents. Andre also added that Timonera had relationships with different women while working overseas. This led his wife, Pacita, to take care of their children on her own.
When Timonera returned to his family, they gave him another chance. But in spite of all their support, he still managed to continue with his old ways. Andre continues his post by saying that Timonera was allegedly involved in scams like raising funds for bogus inventions and illegal recruitment. There were instances where he even deceived his own family.
Just recently, Timonera, in an attempt to squeeze money from his children, he attacked Pacita, while under Dr. Ng’s care in Oriental Mindoro. Pacita suffered a stroke and is now healing.
After that incident, he traveled back to Manila without apologizing.
Timonera is reportedly now living with his 25-year-old partner Jonalyn Baylon.
NO MATTER WHAT HE IS YOUR DAD. HE MADE YOU WHAT YOU ARE RIGHT NOW. WITHOUT HIM YOU WILL NEVER BE WHAT YOU ARE RIGHT NOW. YOUR CHARACTER AND WHAT YOU HAVE BECOME. YES HE HAD A LOT OF MISTRESSES BUT THATS WHAT HE IS. BUT HE IS STILL YOUR DAD. WHEN HE DIES, YOU WILL REALIZE THAT. WHEN HE DIES, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY FORGIVE HIM, BECAUSE NONE OF THAT MATTERS AFTER DEATH. SO WHY NOT FORGIVE HIM NOW.
Yes Janet hes still their Dad, But when they needed them, did he considered them as his son/daughter… just sumthing to also consider
Am a father myself and I don’t raise my kids to believe that they owe me anything that in the future they have to reciprocate. They owe me nothing , I owe them a lot because If they were given a choice, they would have chosen a better father than me. But you parents are the ones who have chosen them when you both conceived them or made them , may choice ba sila kung masamang magulang kayo , wala di ba? So on that premise I despise what Mr. Timonera is doing soliciting sympathy from social media knowing that netizens are suckers for this kind of story. Bilang magulang dapat niyang isa alangalang ang kapakanan ng kanyang mga anak , he should have prepared for this along time ago, kids will have their own life they will be parents themselves, hopefully responsible parents. Pag ang mga anak natin ay may sariling pamilya na – huwag na tayong dumagdag na pabigat, huwag na nating isipin na dapat silang gumanti sa pagpapalaki natin sa kanila. Dahil ang ganti ay sa mga hirap na dadanasin din nila bilang mga magulang. Let us just be happy for whatever there is that they will share with us, but to me I am not expecting. Just love your kids give them all you’ve got , raised them with God’s love , sasabihin ko sayo kahit magkahiwahiwalay na kayo babalik balikan kayo ng mga anak niyo and I know very what am talking about.
Tama ka Mr. Leon. I am a father also and a son. I can relate to your statement that “magkahiwahiwalay na kayo babalik balikan kayo ng mga anak niyo” kung ang pagpapalaki ng mga magulang sa kanilang mga anak is based on God’s will and love.
Cheers to you!,
Joefrey
NAPAKA BOBO NAMAN NG MGA NAG COMMENT D2 NA YUNG MATANDA PA YUNG PINAGTANGGOL. PORKET TATAY, KAHIT MALI YUNG GINAGAWA NYA YUNG TATAY PA RIN ANG IPAG TANGGOL? KABOBOHAN.. ANALIZE NYO MUNA YUNG SITUATION D2 BAGO KAYO MAG COMMENT. NA HA-HIGH BLOOD AKO SA INYO MGA BOBO!
BAGO KA MAG SALITA NG BOBO MAG-ARAL KA MUNA NG SPELLING!!! ANALIZE MO MUKHA MO!
HAHA ANALIZE DAW.. IKAW ANG BOBO!
Well said Leon. Ang hirap kasi sa ibang parents specially sa mga Pinoy, they expect too much from their children na para bang nag-anak sila para lang buhayin sila. Yes father sya, parents in general, and without him/them wala ang mga anak, pero iba ang pagiging magulang sa pagpapakamagulang.
I’m so touched with your second statement. Now, I’m supporting myself for college by working day and night. Sometimes, I have to support my family kahit na konti lng. It’s so hard that way but I learn to accept that that’s the way it is. When the DEAN of our school learned about it, she commented something that quickly brought me to tears. But I can’t say it exactly to her. Ang hirap sa ibang mga Pinoy ay they rely too much on their children especially financially.
So true… I am a father of 3 and they all went to college without taking any student loans. My wife and I worked hard and paid for their education and all their expenses growing up. Not to mention all their activities that we have to attend for them even without any sleep to support them. They are now all doing well and my wife and I are now saving for our retirement. Whenever, they get us something expensive or treat us to an expensive dinner, I can’t help but deposit money to their accounts. My wife and I are always worried that they might be doing it to make us happy and to show their appreciation to us, but they might be hard up for money or might fall short on paying their bills at the end of the month. They were upset that we still do that and that we still worry about them financially.
Now, we agreed not to send them money every time they spend something for us, but they promise to try not to spend too muchn also. All we want is to see them and spend time with them. That’s the best gift they can give us.
So I really get upset when I hear or see those pinoy parents who did not do much for theirs kids but expected too much from them to support them financially and physically. At times they are even sending their kids to be become maids, houseboys, and other jobs not suited for an adult. These are 13-16 year olds, then they will asked for cash advance towards their kids salary until the kid is stuck there for years to pay for it. I feel like smacking these parents.
It is our responsibility to raise our kids to the best of our ability and give them the best life we can give them. They don’t owe us anything, we chose to have them, they did not asked us to have them. In the end, when they do things for us we hope its because of their love and appreciation for what we have done for them. They do it because they want to, not because we demand it.
That is why we parents should not invest too much for our children. We parents should keep for ourselves for our future (pagtanda), so we will not be PAHIRAP sa mga anak. So we also would not expect too much from our children. We parents shall only give our children what they NEEDED, our obligation to give them a proper education. So, when our children become parents na, they will do the same. Siempre, children caring for their parent is definitely a good thing, but not an obligation. And is only a bonus. Anyway, why worry, God is always with us when we are true to Him. Life here on earth is only preparation. Let us be prepared instead. 🙂
Now that’s what a TRUE FATHER is!!! God Bless You Mr. Leon!
I couldn’t agree more. There was this one time my father and I had a fight then he said, ” HINDI KO KAYO GINUSTONG MAGING ANAK!” Then I said, “Tanungin niyo po muna kami kung ginusto namin kayong maging ama.” Mahilig siyang sumugal. He even borrows money from me. The funny thing about that is I’m just a student. I’m not working, yet. Unlike him. Oh, and his salary? Pinagpipiyestahan nung kabit niya at nung anak niya. 🙂
I Salute Mr. Leon for being such a great father. 🙂
Well said Mr. Leon Gore. The perspective of a good man, a good provider, a good person.
Was he the dad, really? Mukhang biological lang, nag-paraos lang. Because being a father entails a lot more than just contributing the semen.. pardon my language. Like Mr. Leon, I instill in my children that their obligation is to their children, not to us the parents. Had he done his role properly, dapat “patuko-tuko” na lang sana si Mr. Timonera, nagpapasarap. Kung yong kapitbahay mo na mabait ka, nagpapakita ng gratitude pag may pagkakataon, yon pang mga anak kaya. Hurting the mother would be the worst thing a father could do to his children. I salute you Mr. Leon, buong buong nahagip mo.
very well said sir
I don’t raise my kids to believe that they owe me anything that in the future they have to reciprocate. They owe me nothing , I owe them a lot because If they were given a choice, they would have chosen a better father than me.
This what exactly my father told us…
3 A’S when making mistakes
1. ADMIT
2. APOLOGIZE
3. ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES
@ JANET
Hindi RESPONSIBILIDAD ng anak na paaralin at palakihin ang magulang. PERO! kagandahan at kabutihang loob yan na “sukli” ng anak at hnd “RESPONSIBILIDAD”. RESPONSIBILIDAD ng magulang na paaralin at palakihin ng maayos ang kanilang mga anak sa abot ng kanilang makakaya.Wala namang nagsabi na anak na hnd nila tatay yan. Amindado nmn sila na tatay nila yan. That is only a manifestation of his stupid actions. Alangan naman na bigyan ng award? kng ganyan…. pakawalan lahat ng nagkasala sa kulungan! Sa “blackmail” pa lng may kakalagyan kana sa kulungan. AND when his dead! party time yan! ……….. sa movie pa na “Braveheart” FREEDOMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha 😉
This line brought me to tears,
” They owe me nothing , I owe them a lot because If they were given a choice, they would have chosen a better father than me. “
Leon Gore, Thanks for sharing your wise fatherly idea. I hope your thoughts will serve as an enlightenment especially to parents.
I agree with you!
🙂
Andaming nagmamagaling hindi naman tatay youre da man LEON GORE!
tama k,leon pero sa ganang akin 4 kaming propesyonal n mgkkaptid at nsa america p,anu nlang ung tig 5k peso kmi monthly,tutal ilan taun nlng illagi nyan sa mundo,mga doctors and nurses kau,,hirap yatang pagtapusin nun,,,,,,imaginin m nga, pero nagawa nya kahit babaero cya
ano ba naman yong pangkain, sabihin na natin 150 pesos a day or 200 pesos a day kawalan ba yon sa pera niyo, pupunta ba yan sa EDSA desperate move kung atleast may pang kain siya or pambili man lang ng SABON, wala ba siyang SSS or PHILHEALTH or PENSION?
Ayoko sana sabihin to e kaso ang bobo mo tangina mo ka di mo naintindihan e hahaha.
quoted from the statement above:
“HINDI NAMIN SYA PINABAYAAN… we have supported him financially, we have offered for him a place to stay.”
financially supported naman siya hindi nga lang enough kasi may ibang pamilya pang binubuhay. hindi naman siguro obligasyon ng mga anak niya ang ibang pamilya nya.
mag tarog basa bi…
Financially supported yung matanda at may offer yung anak na kung saan dapit siya tumira… kaya lang yung matanda gusto parin niyang i live in at buhayin yung 25year old na kabit nya na hindi niya kayang panindigan sa sarili niya… Kaya stop siguro yung support sa kanya kasi klaro naman na ang binubuhay sa kalaguyo ay yung pinaghirapan nang mga anak… eh Sino naman papayag na anak niya na mag susuporta sa ika apat na bises na kalagoyo… Kung ako din sa mga anak niya ay ganun din yung gagawin ko para matigil na yung kalokohan nang ama nila…
Lesson din ito sa mga magulang na pumapasok sa ganyang buhay at sa pag tanda ay hindi niya maninidigan yung mga maling ginagawa niya sa asawa niya…
basa – basa din pag my time…. tapos intindihin…. hays…
nakakabobo po yung comment mo >.<
Pinaka stupid na comment here.. Please read it again and again and understand the article.
anu b yan, isip muna bgo comment, well said and clear ang statement ni Dr. Mic Ng (daughter)…di nila pinabayaan ang prodigal and waldas na father nila despite his bad ways towards them and their mother…kya lng abusado na kya its right tym na bigyan dn ng leksyon para matuto at madisiplina ang tatay nila, matanda n nga pero walang pinagkatandaan!!
pati pangkain, pang-sabon, kinuwenta mo pa…wala nmang kwenta ang pinagsasabi mo…epal!!…
intindihin mo ung subject!!..un lng!!
hahaha!!! susunod po sana may tagalog version tong blog para walang nag mumukan engot hehe….
Winston , Ang BOBO mo di ka ba marunong magbasa o umintinde ng binabasa mo??
will you please read carefully before you write your comment here. yan ang problem sating mga pinoy, most of the time, we choose to have pity on those kind of people without even knowing the real story.. kaya dumadami ang ganyang klaseng tao dito sa pilipinas, because of people like you who pity them. why not let them work for themselves. kahiya naman sakanya kung yung mga anak niya pa from his real family ang bubuhay sa mga taong sumira sa pamilya nila ano po? i know several people who are already OVER 80YEARS OLD, pero still working, then why can’t he do the same. people have same number of hours in a day and same number of days in a year. there are a lot to do out there than making scandals on the media or on the internet. please analyze first what you have read, before bursting out all your nonsense shitty comments here. think first.
sinurportahan nga sya! but he asks for more to support his mistress and other kids..
Winston, please, please, do not be an idiot. Konting level up sa comprehension minsan ha, magpractice ka magbasa basa muna tapos intindihin mabuti.
okay na lahat eh.. kaso ang bobo mo eh!
nkakainis ka eh hahaha… MAG BASA KA!!..
ENGLISH KAC EH kasalanan nang nag post mag adjust kyu sa tao na to ang bobo eh
Ahem – pwede pong magbasa. Try nyo rin minsan para di kayo magmukhang bobo.
Ay si kuya, hindi marunong magbasa nang tama. 🙁
Winston, you need to light and smoke a Marlboro in a corner. You got creamed. There are times that you really have to think hard until your nose bleeds before you speak. but dont worry!! Redeem yourself. Give the old man money. Sagutin mo na. Nag kwenta ka na eh. Kompletohin mo na. Walk your talk. Wag ka papatalo. Goodluck!!!!
pang ilang anak ka ba ni mr. timonera? parehas utak nyo kasi hulmang hulma, pls lang wag nyo na pahirapan step sisters nyo
Mas naawa pa ako sayo ngayon winston kesa sa matanda hahaha May kabit nga 25 years old malaking pera ang gusto. Ang bobo amf nakaka hiya comment mo winston
Take note. Dr. Ng said they did no abandon their father. They are still in contact and hindi pinababayaan yung father. Read po muna before mag comment.
Polgas my reply was meant to Janet. Sorry.
swerte lang nman kayo dahil di kayo sa nasa position nila..klaro nman sa statement diba..kung kayo din naman sa situation na yan, ganyan din gagawin niyo..wag plastik mga boss
I think daughters forgave him already, but it does not mean they will give money and support the new family? Daughters are not obliged to give him money. Anyway, no father is in the right mind showing and embarassing your daughters in millions of people just to get money.
I definitely agree with you hat daughters are not obliged… as we rad they sad that the are giving him money but to him nothing is enough. he asks for more to support his family and that is very unfair to his kids..
Forgiving someone who wronged you is hard, Janet. If you have been through hell, you will know that. It is only through God’s grace that we can do that but is it not for us to to say, “we know everything already.” We were 9 kids too. My father had another woman and sired 3 more kids. My father never took care of his children and beats my mom most of the time. I was 3 years old when my nanay decided to leave the house. Everyone left the house with her and never looked back. We were very poor and nanay is just doing laundry but God pulled us through. 25 years after, I looked for my tatay. He was abandoned and can’t take care of himself. I forgave him and asked him to seek forgiveness too. He was very sorry for all the things that he did to us. I called up my other brother and he took him in. He died forgiven but the scars he left are still there. Healing takes time and all we can do is pray for his children and for their father to seek forgiveness, too.
Ms. Janet. pag na experience nyo po ang sitwasyon na yan sa tingin ko hindi mo rin alam kung ano ang gagawin mo… may mga bagay na dapat intindihin muna bago mag judge. I bet you had a good life & a perfect family, so be it. But there are people out there who has to go through hell everyday in their lives just because a parent has gone irresponsible.
I think you deserve to have a husband like mr. timonero, if that happens? then recollect your comment.
It goes both ways. Do you think that he was thinking “These are my kids, they are my responsibility” everytime he did those things? Yes, he is their dad, but at the same time, THEY ARE HIS FLESH AND BLOOD, would you every treat your own kids that way? They didn’t choose him to be their dad, but he chose to play around and have kids with different women. How is that fair? Plus, YOU don’t know their real situation, so you have no right to tell them, IN ALL CAPS, to just easily forgive like that. It takes time, and no stranger on the internet should tell them what to do.
your dar is still your dad. no matter what. simple family values…. how could you ignore him, despite his wrong doing. he is old, and he needs attention. there is a better way of handling their personal dispute, than what she just did. it looks like it has just become a money/financial support issue. The children doesn’t want to give financial support because these money will be used up and eventually be gone. But isnt that what the purpose of financial support is, so people have something to spend for their daily living? the support has to be consistent. from her letter, it looks like they will just give him support once, and if naubos na, magtatanong bakit naubos at saan napunta. but it doesn’t matter… i don’t know, but i am coming from my own experience because i also provide financial supports to my parents in the Philippines. and I never count the money i give them… once i gave it to them, it’s on their discretion where to put it.
“Timonera is reportedly now living with his 25-year-old partner Jonalyn Baylon,”
OUTRAGEOUS
If what you consider “daily living” includes the support of the mistress of your own father, then so be it. Imagine what utter disgrace to the mother na sinusuportahan na malamang pati ung kabit. To add, ang hinihinga ng tatay niya is “Pangkain” so bakit nauubos ng ganun ganun nalang. Hindi naman siguro nila ipagkakait sa tatay nila kung sapat naman ung binibigay nila eh., and based sa ginawa ng tatay nila may karapatan naman siguro silang malaman kung san napupunta ung pinaghirapan nilang pera.
In my humble opinion lang naman, and I imagine u have wonderful parents 🙂
Anong klaseng tao to, after what he did or what he failed to do as a father and wife, may gana pang mamahiya. Unang una responsibilad ng magulang yan na pag-aralin ang anak, which I doubt na ginawa niya. Additionally, responsibilidad ba ng sustentuhan ng iniwanan mong mga anak na nagpakahirap para maging successful malamang pati ung mistress? NAKAKAHIYA naman sa nanay nila. Additionally, Hindi naman siguro ipagdadamot ng mga anak kung pangkain nga lang talaga. Magtataka ba sila dahil sapat naman siguro ung binibigay nila kung bakit nauubos.
Para sa mga anak, find a place in your heart to forgive, ibabalik din ni God un 🙂
Para sa tatay, sorry but you reap what you sow.
Like what you said, you are coming from your own experience and your experience is completely irrelevant to their case. You know what, since I think you are fond of judging people’s situation based on your experience, why don’t you be the solution you think of and give Mr. Napoleon financial support from your very own income? Sure if the money their dad is asking is only for his basic needs then I don’t think his daughters will hesitate. Pero kasama yung needs ng bago nyang family?and he spends the money like a one day millionaire? then he even have the guts to blackmail them? Kailan paba dapat sila tumigil? pag parepareho na silang taong grasa tulad ng tatay nila?
Mark, pareho ba ang napagdaanan mo sa napagdaanan ng mga daughters?? if u were in their shoes kaya mo bang sikmorahin ang ginawa ng tatay mo?? once or twice siguro of womanizing kaya pa (i doubt), pero four times na may kabit (take note 25 years old ang kinakasama presently).. wow naman.. kung tatay mo yan, susuportahan mo pa ba yan?? ngba.blackmail pa pra mkapangtustos sa kinakasama.. isip-isip din pg my time..
u have a point, mr. WUYDOH,…not once, not twice, not thrice, but still maybe the fourth now is not d last…kc malakas p c napoleon t….malakas pa nga…malakas pa mang-blackmail sa daughters nya!!!…hihihi!!
75 years old n ung tatay nyo ilan taun n lng illgi nyan sa mundo,pgbigyan u n
Romans 12: 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly.[h] Never be wise in your own sight. 17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it[i] to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
just wanna ask, if your comment is meant for the children. or for the father. just think of it . 🙂
i agree w/ mr. marlon…
maganda po ang passages n yan from the Bible, but in this case it is irrelevant and not applicable, out of context po…
and again as mr. marlon suggests…just think of it!!
It was a good one that you said better than just best in the kind of situation here.
Janet, he was not asking for forgiveness. He was asking for money. Please respect the daughters andd what they have gone through with that man.
I agree with you @jamfick
i agree with you too Jamfick.. the children had forgiven him amidst all the pain that he had cause to his family but he still continues to do what will hurt his family. How can he say that he was not supported when he had the number of his daughter? and with four illegal women, how can we forgive a father who is not faithful to his wife AND ALWAYS CAUSE some heart aches to their mother..he doesnt have to announce it in public kasi andyan naman anak nya at mapag usapan nila yan..nagpapaawa lng cya just to get money from his daughters.. sana di nya gawin yan kasi cya din ang mapaparusahan ng Panginoon…oo nasa bibliya na Mahalin natin ang mga magulang natin pero pag ganun naman ang ginagawa ng ama natin at paulit ulit niya sinasaktan ang pamilya mabuti pang kalimutan cya..
i agree w/ u ms. lengleng, the father hurt his daughters before…
and that’s not d end of it…kasi hanggang ngayon he continues to hurt and humiliate his daughters by what he is doing in public.
tama ba na ipahiya mo s sambayanan ang mga anak mo?? meron nga dyan na kahit naging masama at suwail at adik ang anak, hindi nagagawang ipahiya ng mapagmahal na magulang, bagkus ay ipinagtatanggol pa at patuloy na inuunawa…this mr. nap t. is only after his daughters’ fortunes and stability, makasarili sya, dapat grateful sya sa kalagayan ng mga anak nya imbes na siraan nya sila…nagsikap ang mga anak nya kya naabot nila ang status nila, be proud of them mr. nap…u let them down before, don’t pull them down now, sa pinagagagawa mo eh sila ang nakakaawa , hindi ikaw…naiintindihan m ba?? umayos ka..!!
I agree to this,,maybe if he ask for forgiveness it is easier to give,,,but to give him something (money) that will just continue to made him sin and hurt him to commit sinning,,,there is a consequence to that choice,,,i had a father too who neglected and abandoned us, he did not involve himself for having another family and still had helped us by not bothering us we are a family people,,,yet we help him in which way we can and be contented to what he receive,,I praise GOD that despite of the lack of support we gave to him,,he did not even bother us this way. So people out there,,,sometimes we have to let other go through this situation as it will teach them to change their life for the good and seek GOD instead why God let this happen to him. MONEY is the solution for the means of their father,,as he have his own family and a new wife who must give that care. Also we are to honor our parents not tolerate them.
as the BIBLE say
Matthew 10:37 – 39
37“He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38“And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39“He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.
let this man seek GOD and GOD will touch the heart of his children for the truth…so we are not to judge people,,,whether his children abandoned him or not,,,instead of judging them pray for them…we are not to judge so we wont be judge,,,we are not to condemn so that we wont be condemned…instead pray for the people for a clear faith. GOD bless us all.
There we go again with that mindset. Why this kind of mindset installed to most of uncritical-thinking Filipinos! When that man is dead, he is dead. That’s it! He did wrong, don’t tolerate his wrongness. Fudge with your principle of being forever indebted because he’s the man who mate with your mother. That rule is yours and does not apply to everyone! Also, don’t call that morality. That’s stupidity.
bravo @Jingle!! 🙂
Seriously?! Did you even read the article? What kind parallel universe you are in? He did wrong. He abandoned his family and nagloko sya. Yes, he gave them life but after that what? Anyone can be a father but it takes a real man to become a dad. Did he take responsibility of his kids right after they were born? NO! You bring a kid into this world and what do you do? Abandoned them?! NOOO! You take care of them. It’s your responsibility to give them a good future. In this case, he did not do that. You reap what you sow. Mr. T’s daughters did their part. Sila pa nga yung nag suporta sa tatay nila kahit walang naitulong yung ama nila. Hindi naisip ng tatay nila na ang sarap na sana ng buhay nya ngayon kung naging responsableng tatay lang sya. Hindi sya sana ngayon andyan kung nasaan man sya.
very right
That is stupid thinking Janet. You wouldn’t say that if you suffer the same fate as the children of that man. Being a father doesn’t give you any right to credit yourself of their achievement knowing how douchebag you are. Did you not read that this man at his age is threatening his children, still continuing to give disappointment to his children. Your mindset is sickening!!!
Janet Naiisip mo ba sinasabi mo.nagbasa ka ba??. d nga pinabayaan eh suportado pa din nila.. pag nakakuha pera at naubos uli balik uli sa pag blackmail.. d tulungan mo matanda na lalaki naawa ka pala eh..
boom panes si janet lim napoles.. baka yan yung kinakasama nya ngayon.. intindihin mo tol..nyahahaha..
Janet think before u speak/write…..i wonder what u would do if u were in the shoes of the daughters… always giving money, always being blackmaild, hurt by your own dad,…ect.
You speak about 4giveness and death…guess what he didnt asked for that nd he is still alive. he wants money to support his new family. his gf is in the age between 20-30 years old. he even ATTACKED his ex-wife, what can u say about that?
Janet, I don’t think you understand the case. tsk tsk
@Janet: Maybe he should PUBLICLY ask for forgiveness and admit what he’s done and currently doing is wrong? But getting back to what this is all about, why is forgiveness an issue here? Is this what this is all about? Let their business be THEIR business, forgiveness or not, acceptance or not, all that is THEIR business. These are God-loving daughters that Mr Timonera did NOT cultivate, yet their single mom have done a tremendous job raising. I think they are more than capable of knowing what’s right and wrong and most likely don’t need to be reminded to “forgive” someone. But to refocus, would a righteous, God-fearing father do something like this to his own daughters? Being a parent is often a selfless role, and I would be dubious of any parent that brags about the fact that he fed, clothed, sent his children to school, when in fact he is supposed to do all of that and more, and all because of love, he won’t need to take notice of himself that he’s done all that. In here, the fact that he says he’s sent his daughters to school (and other incorrect or incomplete claims) and to ask for money in return is just dishonorable and clearly shows what sort of parent he was to his daughters.
If he had been a father to them then he has all the right to complain but not embarassed their children publicly. If he really loves them he would not put his children into such situation like this. Because there is always a God who knows and sees everything. The fact that the children took their mother and is taking care of her shows that they are good children. Let God be the judge!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2hV_4JboHU#t=71
lol
sira ulo pala tong janet na to. napakabobo magisip eh!
You are missing the point. This guy’s story went viral, and as a result, people have been harassing them. This isn’t so people can take sides, this is so people leave them alone. It doesn’t matter if you think they should forgive him.
di mo b nabasa??? d nman nla pnabayaan yung ama nila … binbigay pnga kung anong kelngan … kaso yung ama nla yung gmhwa ng paraan pra lumayo sknla … english english kpa tanga mo naman
JANET – STOP TALKING SHIT. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, I THINK YOU ARE ALSO A MISTRESS. SO SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
You just dont know how his Children felt, and their mother beaten by their idiot and maniac Father. Remember, so easy to be a Dad, but really hard to be a good Father.
Yes, he’s still their dad but he’s a deadbeat. He only contributed sperm—he did not shape their characters or personalities. Let’s not even get started on morality because anyone who shames his kids in public over a private family matter clearly has none. The success of the daughters has absolutely nothing to do with how he raised them because HE WAS NEVER THERE. Kudos to the mom for raising 4 strong women. And please, don’t even think about throwing in God and the Bible. Last I checked, Jesus and the rest of the prophets were dead and I’m pretty sure they didn’t have internet accounts. But if you MUST bring religion into this, it’s between them and God.
JANET, ARE YOU JANET NAPOLES? Your comment is the most stupid response I’ve ever seen in my entire life. May God have mercy on your soul for not using your brain. If you are a Filipino, you are an embarrassment to a community of intellectual beings. Hope you die. Thank you.
Biologically, yes he is their father, but did he ever do his responsibilities to his daughters the right way? if his daughter is saying the truth and i can see logic on what she is saying then the old man has only himself to blame. being a father does not end with just having a children it commands responsibility and compassion too.
Huwag ka SISIGAW!!!
The daughters offered him a place to stay. Duhhh. May pa caps lock kapa jan. Mag isip ka kasi muna.
if you read the article. and you understood every word. you would realize that he wasn’t much of a father. in fact he was a shitty dad.
I disagree.
Galing. ikaw din siguro magsasawa ng kakabigay if sa mga kabit lang at anak sa labas napupunta yung pinagpaguran mo. Why should children give him money when that money is only used to commit sins? He won’t stop womanizing as long as he has money to spend on these women. It is a parent’s responsibility to raise his kids. He chose to have them. it is not a child’s responsibility to support a father’s vices even if he has fulfilled all his obligations to them.
Ms. Janet how can you forgive that kind of man if he keeps on doing the those kind of things, specially to his family? Some people are very easy to judge and give advise..try walking in their shoes? can you forgive right away?
Janet you just get burned. Halatang mahina sa pagiisip.
his only contribution to their life is his semen, aside from that…what else? I am a single mom and I’ve always said to my kids: I have an obligation to you but you don’t owe me anything. i don’t think children owe their lives to their parents, because let’s face it, parents had sex and the result is a child. When my eldest graduated from college and started working, she said she will take care of the expenses for her youngest sister’s education. I told her “NO”. As long as I am still capable of supporting my youngest daughter, I will. Now, if I die, that is the only time that she should help her sister financially. It is not her responsibility, it is mine as a parent.
NAGBABASA KA BA JANET O ALL CAPS LANG NAIINTINDIHAN MONG BASAHIN? ANG HINIHINGI NUNG TATAY EH PERA HINDI FORGIVENESS. WHEN ALL OF YOUR CHILDREN TURN AGAINST YOU MERON SILANG RASON. DAUGHTERS PA MAN DIN, OF COURSE AT ONE POINT THEY FORGAVE. THEY TRIED TO SUPPORT HIM KAHIT SYA ANG NAKALIMOT SA KANILA. YES, HE IS STILL THE FATHER. BUT PEOPLE REAP WHAT THEY SOW. WE ALL GET WHAT WE DESERVE. AND THESE GIRLS DESERVE THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY SHARED WITH EVERYONE AS WELL. DAMING GANYANG TATAY SA TOTOONG BUHAY!
Janet, shut up!
Janet. did you came from a broken family? maybe not.. and you never experience such pain these daughters had gone through.. i can say i have similar experience with my dad.. so i know how painful it is growing up with this situation.. so please..before you suggest make sure you know what yu are talking about..
Its really easy to judge and comment especially when you’re not in the situation. Coming from a broken family, almost w/ the same scenario with this, it was never been easy. When My dad passed away, yes we learn to forgive him but you know what, the trauma and hurt will always remain. What kept us strong nalang is the thought that mom and us are still together and for us (children), we will not allow it to happen again with our own future family. Hindi tagala madali kapag ikaw na yun nasa situation kaya sana respeto nalang din doon sa mga anak at sa nanay nila.
“NO MATTER WHAT HE IS YOUR DAD. HE MADE YOU WHAT YOU ARE RIGHT NOW. WITHOUT HIM YOU WILL NEVER BE WHAT YOU ARE RIGHT NOW. YOUR CHARACTER AND WHAT YOU HAVE BECOME.”
Biologically speaking, her daughters are what they are because of their mother and father. But that’s where it ends. Their mother raised them and not him, they owe their character and what they’ve become to her. She is the hero and not him. All he gave them was misery.
“YES HE HAD A LOT OF MISTRESSES BUT THATS WHAT HE IS.”
They gave him a chance and came back, but he gave in to temptations and strayed off again. He even left them when their mother was diagnosed with a disease.
“BUT HE IS STILL YOUR DAD. WHEN HE DIES, YOU WILL REALIZE THAT. WHEN HE DIES, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY FORGIVE HIM, BECAUSE NONE OF THAT MATTERS AFTER DEATH. SO WHY NOT FORGIVE HIM NOW.”
Like I said, the only thing their daughters owe their father in this case is their DNA. Period. We don’t know maybe they already forgave him, or maybe they will forgive him in the future. But that doesn’t mean they want to be abused just because their kindness. The saying goes “fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.” Forgive but never forget.
He is their biological father. That’s about it. Blackmailing your children for money after leaving them for multiple mistresses? That’s not something any decent father would do. His daughters have no responsibility over him after what he has done. He should reap what he sowed.
Duuude fuck off. This sorry sack of shit excuse of a father is not worthy. Just because he’s their father doesn’t mean he’s been a dad. BIG difference. Just because they’re blood doesn’t mean they are obligated to him.
Yes true, he may still be their father, but please, don’t you just get it? Try to place your feet in their place instead. Have ever experienced being given a father like that? Well I guess you did not. Is it? Or if you have you must have been stupid playing blind and passive on the injustices you’ve been experiencing.
If your father raped you, can you still have that kind of mindset? If your father injured or killed you, can you still have that kind of mindset? If he rapes or kills any of your family members especially your own kids, can you still have that kind of mindset?
Wtf is wrong with you. Being blood related does not mean you are sinless. The daughters are who they are because of the choices they made and the hard work they put in. NOTHING to do with their dad. So it’s fine that he’s had lots of mistresses?? Really??? God I feel sorry for someone who thinks has the audacity to post a comment like this.
Forgiveness is avialable only for those who are repentant of their sins. Forgiveness also can be claimed by those whose repentance is not superficial…In the case of their Dad, it seems he is just trying to play with them.
Janet, how can you say he made them who they are right now? You spoke of character and what he’s children has become – how is that possible when he’s neglected his children? I don’t know about you but character is built on surroundings and influence. If he wasn’t around because he was gallivanting with his mistresses and his other family, wouldn’t the character of his children stem from another person, perhaps his children’s mother since it was her that stuck by them?
You also spoke of forgiveness – but who’s forgiving who? The children to forgive their father? The daughter’s statement doesn’t reflect bitterness nor resentment. It was diplomatic and fair so I don’t think forgiveness is an issue. In fact, this family he’s neglected could’ve turned their back on him a long time ago (that’s another example of the children’s character) had they been spiteful but they didn’t, so I don’t think the children forgiving their father is the case. If ever, it’s him who must ask for forgiveness off them.
You spoke of death and the realization his children would make once he’s gone but what role did he really play in their lives? How will they remember him by? To me, he sounds like he leeches off them for finances but other than that he’s no real relationship with his children.
He may be their father but what kind of a father would subject their kids to that kind of life/relationship? In other words, he doesn’t sound much of a father to them at all. It just happened that his children have reached the end of tolerance for his abusive behaviour and will no longer subject themselves to a poisonous life with him.
I think people were also quick to support him because of his age – had he been someone younger, the outcome of this story would be far different from how it’s been perceived.
BTW, he’s another family where the wife is in her 20s, can she not get off her arse and support them?!
Miss janet…as said at the story they dont abandoned their father..they give money enough to him to strive but the problem is, their father ask for more to support his other family…i think its to much
Janet, as his daughter mentioned, he was forgiven, many times… he just takes advantage of them. We shouldn’t be judging.
It’s easy for you to say that coz you were not in their shoes. As the daughter said, they never abandoned him. It’s the old man who keeps on asking money and doing black mails. So you will let him abuse you and take you for granted just because he is your biological father? C’mon, stop being self righteous.
Just because he is the reason they are alive doesnt mean he is a father! It takes guts and responsibilities to be a father. According to one of her daughter after all they did still support him because they love him, too many chances have been given but wasted the point is they are human too and as normal people we get tired and somedays we decide to grow apart from the situation that burdens us. He may be their father but he has never been there as a father! Because fatherhood is a privilege it is has to be earned!!!
Kung ganyan cla kayaman bkit d n lng nila kunin tatay nila sa pinas?mas mareresilolba p ng gnun un
Hindi ka siguro marunong magbasa no?
Stop apologizing for his womanizing with a “boys will be boys” bs excuse. “You will never be what you are right now?” You mean a family who grew up in a broken home whose privacy was invaded and was bashed by internet users. Much parenting, so dad, very thanks, wow.
It’s not their job to fix him anymore when they’ve tried several times already. When he dies, that’s one less person tormenting a family of hardworking people.
maybe we don’t fully know what kind of father is he, this issue is just a very small portion of their lives. yes, he’s their father, but not all men can do the role as a “father”. it’s easy to say if your family is sweet and loving. maybe you haven’t heard much of these kind of stories, so keep your mouth shut.
JANET tanga ka ba o bobo ka lang talaga?
Humihingi po ba sya ng patawad? Hindi naman po! hindi sya humihingi ng kahit na ano kundi pera lang at suporta!
The Question is , Naging mabuti bang ama ang lalaking ito sa mga anak nya? para masabi mo na Without him they will never be what they are right now. e diba nga yung nanay ang nag gapang sa kanila para makapag tapos sila , I think this man only contributes is His sperm cell yun lang and hindi dahil binigay nya ang sperm cell nya at Tatay na sya na may utang na loob na sila … YOu cant tell them to forgive dahil matanda na yung tatay nila and eventually mamatay narin , you was never there in their hard times . so wag mo sila i judges kung hindi nila kayang patawarin ang tatay nila . hindi mo alam kung gaano kalalim ang sugat na ginawa ng tatay nila sa pagkatao nila . Just sayin !
thats ridiculous even if he is your biological father it doesnt mean he has the right to abuse his children.what do you mean? “without him you will never be what u are right now”.they were abandoned when they are still kids,theres a lot of difference between produced biologically and being raised morally,in fact when napoleon hit and attacked mrs pacita,,oh boy you have crossed the line OLD MAN,pasalamat sia walang siang anak na lalaki kay pacita baka di lang bugbog abutin nya,,what does dying has to do with this topic??? remember we can only make good things when we are living,if we canot do good things anymore whats the point of living??e sinasaktan na nanay mo di ba??
JANET, NIRESPETO NAMAN SIYA NG MGA ANAK NIYA BINIGYAN PA NGA NG PERA DIBA KAHIT ALAM NILANG MAPUPUNTA LANG YUN SA MISTRESS AT PAMILYA NILA. SOBRA NA YUNG TATAY NA TO THE POINT NA GAGAWA PA NG POSTER UPANG MAPAHIYA PA SILA. GAWAIN BA YUN NG ISANG TATAY PARA LANG SA PERA? KUNG IKAW KAYA GAGAWIN KA NA LANG NA KUHAAN NG PERA ITOTOLERATE MO BA ANG GINAGAWA NG TATAY MO?! UTAK PLS
Sa mga anak, bigyan nyo na lang,,, sa kahit anong bagay,,,, hindi na tatagal yan,,, konteng araw na lang yan,,,
at least na paliwanag na ninyo ,, dba? Kampi ko sa inyo,
Really Janet? Can you really easily say that? Just because he is their father it doesn’t mean they are obliged to accept him. Do you know the saying “respect begets respect”? It’s like you didnt even understand the story that’s going on in their family. It’s like you just simply say just because he is family, you should accept him. Kung sa pamilya mo kaya nangyari yan… iniwan kayo sa ibang babae, sinaktan ang nanay mo, pinapahiya kayo sa media, tapos bina-blackmail pa… matatanggap mo ba uli siya? Siguro Oo ang sagot mo just to prove your point that you should accept anyone that is family. Seriously. Grow some brain. Not all the time that blood is thicker than water.
Hindi dugo ang batayan kung naging ama ka sa kanila.
Janet seriously wtf open your eyes did you not read the whole story or did you just read it without understanding it? “HE MADE WHAT YOU ARE RIGHT NOW”. Didn’t you read that he left them while they were in high school? He did not make them he barely supported them financially. Dr. Ng even said that it’s her husband that supported majority of the finances. “YES HE HAD A LOT OF MISTRESSES BUT THAT’S WHAT HE IS”. Oh really? That’s what he is? You think that’s normal? You think a person can marry someone, have a family, and at the same time still have mistresses? If you do, please rethink your life. Don’t give comments like these as if you know what it feels like to see your father with not just one, but four women, even after you have forgiven him the past three times already. When he dies, yes they will be sad, naturally, because he is their father. But if he was your father you should be disappointed with him. Fake documents? Mistresses? Embarrassing his daughters through the internet? He’s really really immature. We should not support this kind of attitude. I am very disappointed with this Napoleon guy, and I am very disappointed with you, Janet. I hope that you will accept this response positively.
Janet walang laman kokote mo ungas!
you’ll never know what kind of life they had unless you were in their shoes
Being a father is not a privilege, it is a responsibility. Edi kung ganyan lang din ang thinking, kahit sino pwede na mag-anak ng mag-anak tapos ipapaalala nalang sa mga pinabayaang anak na “Wala ka ngayon kung hindi dahil sakin.” Nasaan ang katuturan dun? Baluktot ang rason mo Janet. A father is more than just being the head member of a family. He is a symbol of hope, epitome of discipline and a guide towards a good future. Privilege mo na yun kung aalagaan ka ng mga anak mo bilang sukli sa pagiging mabuting ama.
“blackmail” ring any bell? hello?! did you even read the article? pfftt….. to forgive someone, they have to genuinely apologize first. just because he’s the biological father does not give him a license to be an a-hole to his children.
Im not saying na tama ka janet, but the things is kelangan din nilang patawarin ung daddy nila. Yeah maybe now its too much, after all the blackmail and etc, at the end of everything sya pa dn ang tatay nyo. And for those who are saying na masama syang tatay remember hindi pa ntn alam ang tunay na story, pdeng totoo ang cnasabi ng anak at pde dn namang hndi. Maswerte pa kayo at may tatay pa kayo na pde nyo pang tulungan, hindi pera ang kelangan nyong ibgay sa knya, kundi pagmamahal at pagtanggap. Iisa lang po ang tunay nating tatay.
Tanga mo gago! Mga katulad mong ganyang kokote ang dahilan kung bakit walang progreso sa Pinas.
HE IS STILL YOUR DAD??? Lets exaggerate it a lil bit. What if ginahasa nya lahat ng anak nya ng paulit ulit? Should they be told that he is still their dad? BOBO!
Ang pagaanak is a responsibility!! And not the other way around. Parehong tao ang magulang at anak so it should be two way. Ang tunay na magulang hindi mageexpect anything in return. In this case wala nga syang magandang nagawa sa mga anak nya e.
mukhang si janet ang may guilt sa tatay niya na mukhang namatay na hindi siya nakahingi ng tawad! ayoko sanang magcomment ng masakit eh pero ndi ko alam kung tanga ka or just plain stupid! get real! stop watching MMK and telenovelas. hindi ngunit siya ang gumawa eh ibig sabihin nun eh siya na ang ama. kahit ndi ikaw ang laman at dugo kung ikaw ang nagtaguyod at nag gabay sa isang bata eh ikaw ang masasabing tutoong magulang! hindi ako nagbubuhat ng bangko pero hindi ako parte ng typical pinoy parents na papag aaralin ang anak as a sort of investment na babawiin nila once may work na ung anak nila. I am still doing back breaking job here in abroad since 2001 para makapagaral lahat ng mga anak ko. last year na ito sabay gagraduate yung pangatlo at bunso ko lahat silang apat professionals na pero I will still keep on working para naman sa pagtanda namin ni misis ko na ndi kami maging pabigat sa mga anak namin at maenjoy din namin ang aming retirement days! come on! dont pretend to be a moral person here trying to admonish those who abhore this old man’s drama show! get real, get life and get out din pag may time sa FB!
@Janet, why not consider all the facts and the real story before giving a lame advise from a self centered pretending to be smart person like you? Didn’t you read the story, he was asking money and black mailing them. Also if he really is a good father, why did he choose to publicly shout that he was abandoned by his daughters and getting all the credits on supporting them? I am a father and I know the real feeling of a father that loves his child, I will never ever do this to them even if they will abandon me, but I don’t think they will do it because I showed them my love and I know that they also love me. So Janet, maybe better to think and consider both sides.
hmm i think you should read again?
First of all, look at his poster, he says he is looking for his daughters, why then does he know our phone numbers? Answer: because HE KNOWS WHERE WE ARE and HE HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH US all these years. Why has he been in contact with us? Dahil HINDI NAMIN SYA PINABAYAAN.
so… ?
Hey Janet put yourself on their shoes…would you keep on giving money to your dad to support his
vices and mistresses???? If u would you are such a shameful daughter who do not have pity on your mother who is over and over again mistreated and giving heartache by your irresponsible father. Put this on your mind being a parent doesn’t stop of combining your sperm and egg together and giving birth to a child in this world. If your thinking is like that you can never be a good parent to your children.
Janet i cant stress enough how stupid you are.
Yes, this is exactly what I wanted to say to Janet! Grrrrrr!
Yes he is their father, but HE didn’t became the FATHER that he should be to his Daughters.
I AGREE.HE IS STILL YOUR FATHER
First of all, you needn’t type your whole response in all capitals as it’s very displeasing to the eyes.
Second, its like you din’t even read her statement. She said her family was helping him already, but he was abusing their generosity. She’s not doing anything wrong, and she even wanted to keep matters private so its just within the family to fix and deal with but it was the Dad who brought it out in public to further extort money out of them.
His children were the ones treating him like he is still their Dad. He was treating them like his personal money fountain.
with that said, i also have no right to judge their family dispute and problems. let them deal with it because thats what they would want. this isn’t a teleserye where everyone shouts their opinions to what they watch and see from their screens.
Janet, seems that you know more than anybody else. I agree with Jingle, its just stupidity. Good thing that Dr. Mic Ng broke her silence.
Ubod ng bobo mo din pala!!! Kung gusto mo magpatawad edi ikaw na lang mamatay ka na… nanay mo kinantot ng maraming lalakr gago
Janet, you are absolutely STUPID. Period.
Janet, I don’t know who you are so I’m not going to judge. However, it is quite obvious that you are such a dumb bitch.
sure he is their dad and it will be good if they can find forgiveness for him in their hearts as soon as possible, while he is still alive but it does not mean that they will allow him to take advantage of them over and over again. I hope the next time you decide to have all your words uppercase, at least make some sense.
are you insane?? what the fuck. what kind of stupidity are you talking about. which is wrong is wrong. and there’s no exception for that. being their father is not enough reason. and remember. it is GOD who made us, our parents is just an instrument for us to be born. and base from what the daughter had just said, they already forgive for what he has done, but he still keep on doing bad things to his own family. and for me, if he is my father, i’d rather choose not to born than being his son,. tama si mr. leon. i am not a father myself, and di ako nabubuhay sa mga kasabihang “magulang mo siya”. the real thing is responsibilidad nila tayo. kasi sabi nga ni mr leon, sila ang pumili na maging anak tayo, pero tayo mismong mga anak di natin mapipili kung sino magulang natin.
forgiving IS good,..BUT BEING A DUMB FOR A LONG TIME,.. BEING BLACKMAIL BY YOUR OWN FATHER THAT LEFT YOU WITH NOTHING BUT PAIN,…AND LIVE WITH ANOTHER WOMAN,..resulting your mother to be confined in the hospital,…blackmail,… to ask a financial assistance to support his mistress? are you willing to give financially,…the point is that,.. their father is the one putting them in vain,..in shame by the use of social media like this,.. “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32,.. yes they must forgive him,..but not in the way that they will keep on supporting him financially,..what they have right now is their success aim together with thier mother and no support,..from their father,.. try to reflect,.. and think of it,..are you willing to support that man if it is your father? knowing that he is leaving with someone,.not your mother and left you with sad memories,..left with pain…my mother is leaving with someone too,.. left us,.. were 7 in the family,… I’m the eldest 19 yrs old,.. and brothers is too young,..father is trying hard to support us,.. but mother asking and asking for a financial assistance,..I know what they feel,.. we can forgive but we cannot consider such things like that,.. even you,..I know you’ll not going to,..if you’re in pour situation,..being blackmail..at siyanga pala,.. a true parent has no right to ask something in return if they really do love their children…because as they’ve been a parent, it’s their responsibility..and of how they raise their child will be the one to trigger to help them and give them in return in the near future,….when the old times come..”Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.” Proverbs 22:6 ,.. blessed nga yung father nila na nagbigay parin financially, kahit ganun ginawa sa kanila..pero di manlang nakuhang mag reflect ng father nila,..di manlang nakuhang isipin ang sakripisyo at pinagdaanan ng mga anak niya,…ikaw reflect ka muna sa nararamdaman nila,…ok lang nmn magpatawad,.. dapat lang yun na magpatawad,..pero di yung maging tanga na ma support para sa kalokohan ng tatay nila,…try to think of it,.. para supportahan ang mistress ng tatay nila,…
GOD BLESS…
janet owh janet…….!!!!!!!!!! go fuckyourself
I think you should start minding your own business and stop imposing your “beliefs” and “values.”
Love begets love. No parent in his right senses will embarrass his children like this. Children who see the sacrifices of their parents will not abandon them in their old age, specially so if they are living in abundance. There’s no better way to solve family issues than talking among themselves instead of going public
Wow Ate, pakibasa po ng maayos ung story. I agree with you that no matter what, he is their father pa rin. But being their father does not give him the right to humiliate nor demand financial assistance in order to feed him and his mistresses. I’m sure if you were in their shoes, you’d react that way. I want to quote you on this: HE MADE YOU WHAT YOU ARE RIGHT NOW. WITHOUT HIM YOU WILL NEVER BE WHAT YOU ARE RIGHT NOW. YOUR CHARACTER AND WHAT YOU HAVE BECOME. YES HE HAD A LOT OF MISTRESSES BUT THATS WHAT HE IS.
The father didn’t make them who they are right now because it was their MOTHER who stayed with them and nurtured them. So whoever they have become right now, THEY OWE EVERYTHING TO THEIR MOTHER. He chose to leave his family to earn a living and then what? Have mistresses? It doesn’t justify anything at all. Lastly, don’t go telling his children that that’s what he is because in the first place, HE HAD A CHOICE.
He should have also thought of that. NO MATTER WHAT, THEY ARE HIS CHILDREN. He should have never abandoned them, but he did. They forgave him and gave him another chance, and yet he deceived them all again. From what he did, he has no right to call them his children because he never treated them like one. And he has no right to call himself a FATHER because he never was.
Why not read carefully and analyze the situation??
para sa kay janet na statement ang punto lang na gusto iparating nya sa pagka intindinya ay maski gaanu kasama ay tatay parin nya at patawarin. cgurado ako na napatawad na nila ang tatay nila miss janet. at para sa mga anak ni mr. timonera isipin nyo at para sa lahat na ang buhay ay may kanya kanya tayong tinahak na mga pagsubok sa buhay. sa akin lang kung ako sa inyo sitwasyon bilang mga anak, bilang respito ipagpatuloy nyo lang ang pagsuporta (financial) na para lang sa kanya ikabubuhay sa pang araw araw kung kulangin dahil may 25 edad na kasama problema na nya yun. naintindihan ko ang inyong saloobin para sa tatay nyo. salamat po.
@ Janet…. malamang ikaw yung pang apat ni Timonera!
Namba-black mail (or white-mail) sya, that is his big mistake. One or two hingi maybe fine, but third , fourth,… time….
I knew there was something amiss with his story, and that it was too good to be true, that four daughters are ganging up on an old man. Excuse me, Ms. Janet, but you seem to be mistaking ‘father’ from a ‘sperm donor’… Natatawa naman ako sa mga comments mo. Mag-isip-isip naman paminsan-minsan…
How can you forgive somebody who is not asking for forgiveness and is hurting the people you love?
Besides this is not about forgiveness. This is about a father blackmailing his children to give him more money. Of course I don’t know them but how can a parent put to shame their children? Only those who don’t really love their children. Because as a parent I only want the best for my children.
booomm….. at namatay si Janet (dead…silence!) magparamdam ka naman Janet!
Pardon Ms. Janet, but having Children is a choice. Hindi ka nagkaanak para makagawa ka ng taong may utang na loob sayo. Hindi insurance policy ang anak. You reap what you sow. Raise ur children well, and they will take care of u. Be a duchebag parent, expect karma. Passing down your gene does not automatically make you a parent.
You obviously did not get the story. There is no forgiving nonsense here. The daughters are supporting their father even with his illicit activities. They just broke out with the truth. No matter how rude their father is, they are still sending him money. Did you read the article or not? So many people love to comment without even comprehending the whole thing.
EASY FOR YOU TO SAY ASSHOLE.
Forgiveness doesn’t mean allowing the person to hurt you again. It doesn’t mean enabling the abuser to continue his abuse. What the daughters did is actually keeping him from continuing his grossly shameful acts. What he did–going online to shame his own flesh and blood just shows how he is beyond their help. They can’t help him anymore because to him, the only kind of help that will work has to be the way he wants it. And it’s obvious that is has not helped him in anyway, but instead enabled him to continue his very selfish and dysfunctional ways.
It’s even amazing that the daughters didn’t have him imprisoned or shushed up some other way. I think they have forgiven him. I pray that they will experience healing from all the pain and embarrassment he caused them. I believe this is not just the first time he has done this to them.
Palibhasa JANET di nangyari sau to. Ikaw na lang magtustos kay tanda if u like. Or ikaw ba ung kabit kaya ganyan reaksyon mo.?
LOUD NOISES
Parenthood is a thankless job. It’s the obligation of all parent to rear their children right. The father has transgressed many times over and yet his children helped him. People has their limits… It’s his children’s cumulative decisions to end the tyranny and blackmail. Simply they had enough. Yes…they are appreciated of whatever their Dad did fort them. They all have forgiven him. The father had his chance and he has to account to himself, the wrong path he has chosen for himself.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, if i may ask you miss janet, would you allow your father to do the same to you and your family, you might say yes because you now are biased because of what you have said na. but, if this situation would be the situation of your family, would you do what you’ve told them? will you please read carefully before you write your comment here. yan ang problem sating mga pinoy, most of the time, we choose to have pity on those kind of people without even knowing the real story.. kaya dumadami ang ganyang klaseng tao dito sa pilipinas, because of people like you who pity them. why not let them work for themselves. kahiya naman sakanya kung yung mga anak niya pa from his real family ang bubuhay sa mga taong sumira sa pamilya nila ano po? i know several people who are already OVER 80YEARS OLD, pero still working, then why can’t he do the same. people have same number of hours in a day and same number of days in a year. there are a lot to do out there than making scandals on the media or on the internet. please analyze first what you have read, before bursting out all your nonsense shitty comments here. think first.
ms. janet Before You Start To Judge them, Step Into their Shoes And Walk The Life they’re Living And If You Get As Far As they are, Just Maybe You Will See How Strong they are. para tanggapin lahat ng criticism na binabato sakanila ngaun! yes madaling sabihin na patawarin na yung ama nila. isa lang naman yan ei. kapag pinatawad na ba sya magiging ok na ba lahat? pinahiya na nya mga anak nya kung kayo man ang nasa sitwasyon na ganyan kaya nyo bang gawin yung sinasabe nyo???? ualang anak ang makakatiis sa kanilang magulang pero sa sitwasyon nila sa tingin nyo po ba kaya pa nilang gawin yan. ang pagtiisan lahat ng ginagawa sakanila ng tatay nila.????
hehehe just saying my opinion 🙂
oo nga tatay nga sya nla, pero sa pangalan at sa dugo lang, hindi sa gawa…hindi nman kailangan maging kadugo mo ang isang tao pra ituri mo syang pamilya.
bat ang bobo mo janet? nagiisip ka ba… walang dugo dugo kung nanarantado, tanga.
Siguro isa ka sa mga hinuhuthutan or nanghuhut kaugali mo siguro si Naponeleon. tangang janet to bobo
really? you’d say that in all caps?? you do not understand the whole story do you? let me paste it back to you ” we have supported him financially, we have offered for him a place to stay. ” which part of the daughters statement says they did not forgive him. and again really? he had a lot of mistresses but thats what he is, its like saying “a killer can continue killing people, because you know, thats what he is.” stop being righteous dumbass.
Janet, ung ganyang mentality na meron ka ang lalong nakakapagpalaganap ng abuse sa mundo. Di nakakatulong ang ganyan, tama na nga ang ganyang pagiging moralista dahil wala kang alam sa buhay na pinagdaanan nila.
I strongly disagree.. hindi porket tatay eh lagi nalang pagbibigyan. Wala ka po sa sitwasyon ng pamilya nila para mang husga. Ramdam ko ang nararamdaman ng mga anak dahil halos pareho ang sitwasyon ng family namin.
Yes. they owe their Dad for without him, they won’t exist in this world. But if he had done what a good dad does, they could have a better life and family. And her daughter also said they had given him a chance. But a 2nd? Maybe.. A third? Plain stupidity.
But I guess the point there is that the children did not abandon him even despite the fact that he is such a messed up father to them the problem with him is that, he is the reason why their mother was put in a situation where she needs to fight for death because of his doings!. the mother who tended her daughters ALONE, the mother who suffered like hell to give her daughter the life that they have now, the mother who suffered the emotional abuse and keep it to herself because she has daughters who needed her.!
I really don’t understand the mentality of people who have the “beaten dog syndrome”. Yes, that is their father. But just because that’s their father doesn’t mean they have to ENABLE his abusive ways. He is taking advantage of the fact that he is their parent. But he is an absentee parent. He sounds like a scumbag that didn’t even deserve any attention from his children. The fact that his children even have a relationship with him is beyond me. So Janet, with no regard to the relationship of a person, if a person does betray you (in any way you want to imagine it. The worst case scenario.) Are you willing to take them back? And you know that in doing so, it is enabling this person. Not only that, but this person will not h ave any form of remorse at all. Would you seriously take them back into your life?
try having a father like that. people who didn’t go through what she or I went through are so easy to say na “he is still your dad”, parang pinapairal ang self-righteouness, pero hindi niyo alam ang sitwasyon. NO IT ISN’T THAT SIMPLE, AND IT WILL NEVER BE “He is still your dad”. I truly hate my father for many things, and I’ve decided to let go of this feeling by thinking he’s already dead. There are emotional consequences ang pagkawala o pagiwan o panggagago ng isang ama. at times you feel incomplete, you feel unloved, you seek love from other men (dangerously). I can tell that there are certain aspect about me or my personality na alam kong caused by not having a father or by having a really bad father. What you can really do about it: Let go, just think he’s dead. Otherwise, dadalhin mo ung pagdaramdam na iyon. Buti nga sila, nakuha pa nilang tulungan ung GAGO nilang ama, pero ako, no way. Not even on his deathbed. I don’t care, and I will never ever care for that guy. It’s plain reciprocation.
Let us not waste our time meddling in their affairs. Guys, wala tayong right na pag-usapan o pagsabihan sila kung wala naman tayong kamay o tulong na iaabot sa kanila. At the same time, we don’t really know kung sino ba talaga ang nagsasabi ng totoo dahil wala tayo sa tabi nila at hindi natin sila kasama palagi. Let us not choose sides or comment regarding this matter, its not solving the problem. Patahimikin na natin ang magkabilang kami, leave it to their level, sila na ang bahala na na humanap ng solusyon sa problema nila. What we can do best for both party is to pray since only God knows whats best for them.
Your dad is your dad? Really, do you find this a logical justification? How would you feel if your dad left you for another family at such a volatile moment in your life, kept having affairs with different women and even went as far as hurting your mother in an attempt to extort money from you? Would you still have the audacity to tell this family to forgive their father just like that? He may have been their biological father but in no way did he contribute to the success of his children. All he did was ruin the supposedly happy childhood they were supposed to have and until now, shame them for his own good. Nobody deserves a father like this. Nobody deserves somebody so toxic to his family and still be able to get away with it … for the sole reason that he is their father. If he is to be forgiven, it should be because he has chosen to change and become a better person… not because of his being a parent because he may have been their parent but he sure didn’t act like one.
There is indeed another side of the story. Para sa nagupload at mga nagshare nito na hindi naman alam ang buong istorya: MGA BUGOK! MAGSAMA-SAMA KAYO SA ISANG LUGAR LAHAT NG HINDI MASYADONG NAGAGAMIT ANG UTAK. KONTING ISSUE SHARE AGAD. ATTENTION AND LIKE WHORES!!!
Hahaha tama ka,,,,,, si ermat nga date,,, hindi raw pinakakain,,,
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Sir, did it ever occur to you that they may have taken the story by its face value because of how the Man looks? You yourself are judging others without understanding the place they were put in by this deceitful old man. Its Hilarious.
I’m glad that the other side of the story is finally getting circulated since its been only known by family and close friends. Desperate people call for desperate measures and when I first heard of this, I was already dubious since the approach taken by Mr Timonera is not honorable or tactful, which leads me to question his honesty. This was obvious from the first time this stunt surfaced, well, at least for me. I just hope that many more people would think critically first before deciding to side with one and judge the other. I applaud the reporters that had the right stuff to find the real story and dig up the truth.
i believe to the daughters of Mr. Timonera, just the same our father also left us for a mistress…and ??????
To Mr. Timonera’s children, I believed what you’ve said. People should know the truth first before judging you. Don’t let other people affect you just because of this issue. You know what you’ve been thru and you don’t need to explain yourself to them. I applaud your Mom coz despite the situation, she was able to overcame the hardships and trials that she ha experienced with your dad. I know how it feels coz, my husband almost have the same situation it’s just the opposite. (Mom). You should be proud of yourself and ignore the bashers… I guess they need to learn to read books coz like in your case, how could you judge or tell that the summary of the story is true if you haven’t read the entire book? Have a great day!
@Janet: I think you are out of context. What forgiveness are you talking about? It has already been given a long time ago.
….. Notice the face of the so called father, he looks like demon with that poster.
Mr. Timonera is not a good person as said by his daughters, truly he has made mistakes, and it is wrong to judge before hearing both sides of the story but i agree with the last comment by Ms. Janet Mr. Timonera is still infact the father of her 4 Daughters and that cannot be change i wish that they could find in their heart to FORGIVE what has been done and through this you will find freedom in your heart and the real value of life as our LORD teached us
He did mistakes, and clearly, he’s not learning from it. I even doubt that he perceives those things that he did as wrong.
@DON, he is not asking for forgiveness and he never did ask for it until now… what he did is to blackmail his daughter… do you think he deserved the help that he is asking from his daughters? Ang pagpapalaki at paglalagay sa maayos na kalalagyan ng mga anak ay obligasyon ng magulang… pero malinaw na walang kuwentang magulang si Mr. Timonera… ang kapal ng mukha niyang maningil sa ayon sa kanya’y “hirap niya sa pagpapa aral sa kanyang anak”. Buti nga kahit paano tinutulungan pa rin siya ng mga ito. Ang pagpapalaki at pagbibigay ng edukasyon sa mga anak ay hindi dapat hinihingian ng kapalit dahil obligasyon ito ng lahat ng mga magulang sa kanilang mga anak.
HE wants money nothing more…
Mr. Timonera is asking for money and was given several times. he wants his older children(the doctors and nurses) to support his current family(his 4th). If the older children should help, it must not be by threatening to shame them(as he did already).
My sympathy is for the children. They have suffered a lot already by living without their father when they were young. It is very hard to forgive the way their father live to make them suffer emotionally until his last days of his life.
God Bless and may they settle this their own…
@Don: how do you know if Mr Timonera’s daughters have or have not forgiven him for his past mistakes? How do you know if forgiveness was even asked for by him? Do you know if he’s aware of another mistake he’s doing right now? Do you think his daughters will forgive him for this one? But is this even really the issue here?
I think that people want to see what they want to see, and completely miss what is really at hand. This isn’t about forgiveness, this is about a man, who’s married to a 4th wife 1/3 his age that he can’t support, asking for money, or else drag his daughters’ names through the mud until he gets what he wants. That’s it. Don’t miss the point, folks. Even if he did help his daughters to get to where they are now (which is largely NO), what kind of father is he to do this to his daughters, just to get more money?? If he was any sort of a decent man, why is this the approach he’s taking? I thought all this was obvious, but I guess I have to mention it.
how can you forgive a person who is not even asking for it?
how can you forgive someone who is prudish enough to accept and admit
his wrongdoings, yes he is their father but only biologically because being a
father does not end to just having a child, it also commands resposibilities.
Don, the daughters have forgiven their father. The father didn’t even realise he is wrong. btw have you gone through same experience? maybe ask the LORD to make you go through the same thing so you would know how painful it is.
i agree with the daughter of mr timomera
no father in the rigth mind would do such a thing to his family, blackmailing your daughter, having many mistresses.
forgiveness already given.. they gave him another chance, inspite that mr timonera still womanizing, they gave him a place to stay and money.
what would you do if you are mr timonera’s daughter. ano mararamdaman mo. magpapa fiesta ka
i will punish him (that means di ako magbibigay ng financial support) until he realize his mistake up to certain point that the only thing left is asking for forgiveness to his daughters and to his wife
gulo pinasok nya ayusin nya.kung mahal nya pamilya nya
I do not tolerate wrong doing
kaya dumarami ang babaero ksi may nagtotolerate
akalain mo na 75 anyos na nkakuha pa ng 25 anyos na kabit.
ang sarap bigyan ng
rear naked choke
leg lock
gawing punching bag ang mukha
concern lang ako sa mga anak at asawa n tumanda na ng malungkot dahil sa tatay nilang babaero
ISA KA PANG INUTIL. WALA KA KASI SA PWESTO NG MGA ANAK KAYA MO NASABI YAN. HINDI SILA KINILALA AS ANAK KUNDI GINAWA SILANG KUHAAN NG PERA PARA MAIBIGAY SA MISTRESS AT PAMILYA NILA. UTAK NAMAN!!!
Yep! That’s right, he’s still your dad. So go and forgive him already. Give him the money he’s been asking for. Mahirap buhayin ang 25 yrs old na mistress kala nyo. Lalo na sa panahon ngayun, matanda na tatay nyo, di na kaya magtrabaho para buhayin ang mistress nya. Maawa naman kayo sa tatay nyo. FORGIVE AND GIVE HIM THE MONEY HE ASKED FOR…….@Don, is that what you and Ms. Janet are implying.
I see were you’re coming janet and I agree when you said ” no matter what he is still your dad”. Ang hindi ko lang kayang arukin yung sinabi mong “without him you will never be what you are now” THAT IS BULLSHIT! You see his children struggled, sacrificed, experienced pain and eventually became successful. Nabasa mo ba ang sulat ng anak? Wala siya ni isang kusing na tinulong sa pagtapos ng kanilang degree.
Sa level ng pag-iisip ng mga anak nya hindi malayong matagal na nilang pinatawad iyan ang babaerong ama nila. Pag-namatay na sya . . . Isang malaking tinik nabunot sa pamilya at I’m sure gaganda pa lalo ang kanilang buhay. At sa kay Mr T. Sikapin mong magsisi at magbago dahil hindi pa huli ang lahat.
I have to agree with you…
whe he dies there will be peace in the life’s of those who were hurt by him.
oh @jenet…he wont go to heaven 🙂
agree to the BULLSHIT!
You crawled, you bled, you cried, you stand THEN become successful tapos ang credit sa kanya dahil siya ang nakipag seeping sa nanay mo para mabuo ka…
That is BULLSHIT!!!
haha your right mr.Castor…its really bullshit a big big shit if that what janeth thinks….he just ejaculate his precoius semen and boom…leave the responsibility to the real hero..the mother…he deserves to be treated like that…di dapat nirerespito ang mga ama na di naman tlaga nagpaka ama…..feeling hurt….
Praises to the mother of the children. They have been composed throughout. There is no bashing against the father in the letter. They just stated the facts of their side even though they have been bullied and harassed online.
And to Janet – THE FATHER STOPPED BEING A FATHER WHEN ALL HE THOUGHT WAS HIMSELF. HIS OWN DESIRES. HIS OWN NEEDS. THE CHILDREN DO NOT OWE HIM ANYTHING.
People commit mistakes & they still deserve a 2nd chance but 2nd chance is only given to people that deserves a 2nd chance
In as much as we children have to respect our parents, parents too has an obligation to their children. I believe that a good parent will never put his or her children to shame. As I always tell everyone, there is no illegitimate children, only illegitimate parents.
Children, obey your parents because you belong to the Lord, for this is the right thing to do. “Honor your father and mother.” This is the first commandment with a promise: If you honor your father and mother, “things will go well for you, and you will have a long life on the earth.”
Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger by the way you treat them. Rather, bring them up with the discipline and instruction that comes from the Lord. (Ephesians 6:1-4 NLT)
General rules… Walang matinong ama na gustong maipahiya ang anak sa maraming mga tao para lang masunod and pansarili niyang kapakinabangan..
Naalala ko ang sabi ng mangangaral namin (bro. ELI) ang sisiw pagkapangak pa lang pwede na sya mabuhay mag-isa basta may pagkain, ganon din ang pawikan at iba pang hayop etc… pero ang sanggol pagkapanganak at pinabayaan mo,, hindi magtatagal ay MAMAMATAY. What i mean is tayong mga tao hindi tayo mabubuhay kung walang mag-aalaga sa atin, kaya kahit gaano kasama ang TATAY mo o MAMA mo ay may UTANG NA LOOB ka pa rin sa kanila kasi binuhay ka nila at inalagan ka. Sana ma-realize ito ng mga anak. Kaya UTANG NA LOOB kung kaya nyo naman magbigay tutal may mga trabaho naman kayo magbigay kayo, “PERA” lang yan OK?
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Haven’t you read this article???
It said they (and I quote) “have supported him financially, and have offered for him a place to stay…”
“….he has another family to support”
So what do you you think daughters would do? Support his “other” family after abandoning them a long long time ago? What the?? Their father (if you read this article) has been blackmailing his daughters for them to give much larger amount…
“we have strove to rise above the problems and get a better life while the path that he has chosen has lead him to nowhere…”
“Pag nag bigay kami, then hinto ang pananakot…
…Pag naubos ang pera, balik uli sa pangba-blackmail sa amin.”
“Have pity on my mother who is old already – and we’re taking care of her. She is the hero in this story but the one being praised now is the man who left us and is crediting all our achievements to himself…”
See??? Think also about the MOTHER guys…
I know some of you are pointing out .. “ah tatay nyo pa rin yan..”, “ah show you’re a better person…”
Yes he is their father.. who ABANDONED them, who BLACKMAILED them, who chose to have ANOTHER FAMILY…
Don’t be one-sided guys read and open your minds..
Responsibilidad ba nila kung ano ang nangyari sa tatay nila? Hindi diba? CHOICE ng tatay nila yun! HIndi sila nagkulang.. SINO ANG NAGKULANG???
YOU BE THE JUDGE…
I PITY you by how you deal your dad. Have you experienced from any of your parent being physically maltreated before?I have experienced that! now tell me to do the same with what you did to your dad bcuz of his MISTRESSES. I felt sorry for your HEART you must have cleanse it and pour in some conscience. I felt angry with my mom when each day i get spanked by any hard object and was even hospitalized when my head git full of blood! i hated her for a while but never in my mind to do the same as what you did to your father! he might have contact numbers with you bcuz goddam it ! that what should have happen and yet never gave him something help for him as his CHILD!I wonder how you deal with your PATIENT when you could not even give a little heart to your own parent.You should wake up and talk to your dad! this is not judging you! i am angry by how lucky you were compared to what i have been through but you still dont realise those good things your dad has done for you! YOUR JOB NEEDS HEART AND SOUL prove it to your patients there! im sorry by my comments but compassion is all we asked for.i cant imagine my mom sitting there in that public place more than a beggar! sleep well then.
RHEA..binasa mo ba ang side ng anak?.kung hindi..basahin mo at baka sakali mabago ang pinagsasabi mo..kung nabasa mo naman..ikaw ang kaawa-awa dahil hindi mo kayang umintindi..kung nabasa mo..kelangan mo ng tulong ng espesyalista..
RHEA, ISA KA PANG UNGAS EH!!! Basa basa din pag may time, intindihin muna yung side nung anak bago magcomment!
RHEA i Pity you more. Next time, think hard before you speak. Pero ok lang yan… Everything can be learned. Even English. I will help you. Wag nyo aawayin si Rhea. Bagong gising lang!!
Janet, without being judgmental, I presume you never experienced being left by your father with nothing. I guess you never struggled to become who you are right now without any father figure. I assume your own father never blackmailed and extorted you just so he can support his vices. But there are things that are easier said than done. It’s always easy to forgive; otherwise, the children wouldn’t have supported the father before he went to social media for his baseless and fake plea.
@janet, you can bravely say that you know because you haven’t experience this yourself. Even if it’s my family, I would have this guy imprisoned because i still have a few love left for him and just visit him time to time. That’s the best thing I can do to protect my family rather thank killing him myself. Because you will never know the worst thing that can happen and what he maybe able to do just to abuse your family.
The fact that four accomplished daughters share the same feelings about their father says a lot about the character of this man, and why his children have chosen to close the door to him. A selfish scammer to the bone, even to his own blood. I hope his illegitimate children realize what kind of a scum he is before he turns to them.
SA MGA ANAK NI MR. TIMONERA, NAPANSIN KONG MABUTI KAYONG MGA ANAK DAHIL KAHIT INIWAN KAYO NG INYONG AMA KAYO AY NAGSUMIKAP KAPILING ANG INYONG INA. NGAYON
NAGAWA NA NINYO ANG MAGBIUGAY TAMA NA YON. IPAGDARASAL KO KAYO .SORI NA LANG SA TATAY NINYO. YAN NA ANG . KABAYARANNA SA KANYANG MGA GINAWA SA INYONG INA.GOB BLESS PO.
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, AND THE WICKEDNESS OF THE WICKED SHALL BE UPON HIM.
@Janet@Don, I think you have the same situation as Mr. Timonera!
Unbelievable! “Father” your children is not your possession that you can do anything whatever you want. The worst thing is why keep on blackmailing them since you’ve left them a long time ago? You need money then work for it. You can post something like this why don’t you post something like, “I NEED A JOB.” And or explore every options that you have instead of doing nonsense
hindi kagustuhan ng mga bata na lumitaw sila sa mundo,,,ang mga magulang ang mismong may kagustuhan nito at sila dapat ang gumawa ng nararapat at tama…..
Well this some kind of family matters. Nobody have the right to judge both of them. Unless you know the real story.
I dont know if you and Janet really understand the story?? The father never ask for forgiveness! What he’s asking is more and more many from his children, he even DO BLACKMAILING to HIS OWN CHILDREN Despite of the support given to him even thos children has big hate to him They choose to help him because HE IS THEIR FATHER and how could you actually forgive someone who AGAIN FOR THE SECOND TIME RUINING YOUR LIFE and spreading that bad comments about you to whole world. Children are just explaining their said. I think both of you must understand.
Janet, kaya madaming hindi umaasenso na Pinoy dahil sa style ng pag iisip mo. The siblings have done their part but he keeps doing it over and over again.
its easy for you guys to say forgive that old man for what he did to his family because you’re not in the position of his children you didnt know the feeling of being abandoned by your own father and yet get their achievements in life when ever he wanted!!!!!!
Maverick Victor Vallo. the one who started it all on facebook. not investigating first and he is proud of what he did. sya dapat ang ibash dito not the daughters. kasi despite of what their heartless father did, they still support him. But their father remained with his attitude.
that is why i hate people who use facebook, etc para lang maka gain ng shares and likes. napaka irresponsible.
Blood is thicker than water but some bonds are thicker than blood. May mga bagay na hindi na dapat tinatanong.
Mr. Timonera left his legal family. Ang ibig sabihin nito, iniwanan nia at wala na siyang paki alam sa kanila. Pero, nag sacrifice ang mga anak kahit pinabayaan sila nii Mr. Timonera. Kaya, nung umangat ang mga anak, gusto ulit ni Mr. Timonera makipag communicate sa mga anak niya. Kahit masakit ang ginawa nitong ama sa kanila, pinapadalahan pa rin nila siya ng financial help. Palagay ko itong si Jonalyn Baylon na pumatol sa matanda tumutulak sa matanda na manghingi pa ng masmaraming pera sa mga legal na anak.
Kayong may mga kabit, mag isip isip kayo. Darating din ang panahon na magkakaganito kayo. Kaya hangga’t maaga, balik na kayo sa legal family ninyo.
Very rude for a father like him to do that to his children…shame on him
hindi na mahalaga ang nakaraan tapos na yun kung ngpatawad cla o hindi ang mahalaga ngayon humihingi cya ng tulong bilang tao katungkulan natin lhat tulungan ang nangangailangan.. sbi nga chatting is good but we need cash… kung may maitutulong kayo madaling mgpadala sa mga anak nya cguro nmn hndi na kawalan sa inyo kung padalhan nyo cya khit tig500 lng kyo every month kung magkasya yun sa knya o hndi bhala na cya dun at least wla ng masasabi sa inyo ang tao ginawa nyo na ang tungkulin nyo bilang anak kung ano man mangyari sa kanya wla kyong kuncnsyang dadalhin sa inyong mga puso.. god loves the giver more than the haters…
Eh di ikaw magpadala!
“There are B Sides to every story” – Ely Buendia, Eraserheads
Lesson to sa mga tatay na walang ginawang mabuti sa kanilang mga anak cguro kung nakita ng mga anak m n naging mahalaga cla saiyo I’m sure n d k nila pabbayaan kung naipakita m sa mga anak m ang totongvpag mamahal ng isang magulang sa kanila anak hind m dadanasin ang ganyan sa buhay bagkos hiniya m pa cla na kung totoosin e wala k naman naiambag sa nanay nilang mostly nag sacrifice para makag aral cla at makatapos oo ngat ama k nila pero d naman nila choice yon n maging tatay k nila.
This man is a POS who is vying for attention. If he has enough energy to go around screwing with mistresses and making signs shaming his kids, then he has enough energy to work for himself instead of depending on his everyone else. To the people saying that the kids need to forgive him because he is still their father, what he has done doesn’t define him as a father. He was just the sperm donor basically because hasn’t done shit for his kids and now asking them to help him, is just making him more look like a greedy, lowly SOB.
I’m reading all the comments and the letter or statement from his daughter, the fact that he abandoned his family is act of selfishness considering mistakes took place while he is young and strong supposed to be supporting his family, tama bakit alam niya mga contact numbers ng mga anak niya kung ang declaration niya is he was “neglected after all he done”, that he can do a necessary move to have communication to them that means he’s claim is dubious…..just used our brain not to judge after seeing this on facebook nor we just jumping to conclusion regarding what we read is true. There are things to be consider to both listen to their story, then you will understand who is telling the truth or who is lying give some respect to the family after all this is a private matter, bringing this to public is non-sense it is obviously act of a BLACKMAILER.
” A DADDY isn’t defined as the man who makes the CHILD, but rather a man who extends his hands and time to help raise the child and give his heart and love to the child, BLOOD doesn’t always make you a DADDY. Being a DADDY comes from the heart…any fool can make a baby, it takes a MAN to raise a child!”
Walang AMA na gustong malagay sa kahihiyan ang kanyang mga ANAK…….Think before we post, its our responsiblity.
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i salute the mother of the said four profesionals. and the sister for giving back to thier mom the right and better life she must actualy have.
this is just real example of what money can do.
@janet. get lost! who are u to comment such in all caps! try to use your neurons first to think right before you spill out your non sense talk!. your getting to our a nerves!!!!
He was not a good father… but he is still your father. He does not have the right mind to comprehend his mistakes.. but you have the right mind to understand that his failures should not be a reason for you to hate him. The brilliant minds should try to make him understand that he is dumb and stupid …. or maybe it is difficult for him to understand. One thing is definite.. he is family. How can you help him find his way? It is a crazy situation… its tough. Help him become better… because there was once upon a time when you all cared for each other. At least you are in a better place. It is better for you to be the one to lend a helping hand rather than you waiting for him to help you. You are lucky, the tide has change… and you are the one who could help him.
STAR pakibasa ang sulat ng anak..kung nabasa mo..it’s either hindi mo naintindihan or tanga ka lang talaga
isa ka pang di marunong umintindi! magsama kayo ni Janet!
Fu^* him
Anyone who leaves his family and respondibilities is an ASS&&@’nn
He deserves it for letting those young children and wife go thru
So to all you guys w families and are still with other women:
FUC* YOU!
Kahit na. Matuto tayong magpatawad. Kahit na ang taong yon ay may problema, sa ugali o pagiisip man. Ang nakaraan ay nakalipas na. Patawarin na ang ama. IpasaDyos na lang ang kanyang kakulangan.
wla tayo sa position para manghusga’ pero ito lang ang masasabi ko, kahit si paquio di pinabayaan ang ama nya na iniwan sila ng wagas! pero ang nagtamasa pa rin ng kanayang tagumpay ay ang kanyang inang naghirap at nagsakripisyo para sa kanila.. kya tama lang na kung anu lang ang ibigay ng mga anak ni mr.t eh pagkasyahin nya,.at di rin natin alam ang dahilan ng pagloloko ni mr. t……TANDAAN NYO ITONG LAHAT.. ANG MAGULANG ANG NAGSISIKAP AT NAGIIPON PARA SA MGA ANAK, HINDI ANG ANAK PARA SA MAGULANG! KYA WAG TAYONG UMASA SA MGA ANAK NATIN NA SASABIHIN AY SALAMAT NAKATAPOS NA KAYO NG PAGAARAL, MAKAKATULONG NA DIN KAYO! ISA IYANG MALING TRADISYON! DAHIL SILA AY MAGIGING MAGULANG DIN AT MASUSUMIKAP PARA NAMAN SA MAGIGING ANAK NILA! NGAYON KUNG AYAW MO NG OBLIGASYON! WAG KANG MAG ASAWA AT MAG ANAK!
Unless you, Janet, have experienced the same situation as these 4 children have experienced with their father, chaka mo ipaglaban yan principle mo. You don’t know what they’ve been through with a father like that. Forgiveness is not the issue since clearly they already have forgiven him despite every wrong doings an irresponsible father would’ve done. Hindi mo kasi alam ang totoo. And i feel their sentiments right upto my core.
This is coming from a daughter with 3 siblings who has a father who did the exact same thing to us.
That is a tight spot to be in for the daughters/sons.
Forgiveness comes from the heart. If you can find it in your heart to forgive him then do so. Mabigat sa buhay ang ganyan lalo na ang ganyang problema. He is your father anyways (kahit gaano pa kasama). Coomunication lang naman yan, kausapin nya sya ng walang hatred.
Bigyan ng kabuhayan o bigyan ng basic na pangangailan nya once in a while. (Take note: basic, Wag bigyan ng pera). Kung kaya, bigyan ng business o trabaho.
Let this be a reminder to all of us about casting a stone, so to speak. Not all is what it seems and everyone has a side to a story. May love reign above all.
I am on the side of the children of Mr. T.. my children’s feel the same what they’ve felt .. nagiging trauma sa anak kung bakit ipinagpalit sila sa babae ng kanilang ama.. for mr. T. you ask forgiveness from God of what u’ve done.. masakit talaga ang Karma.. sana inisip nyo noon na may pagtanda rin kayo,,, at pamilya pa rin ang hhanapin nyo.. so it’s too late… pinili nyo ang babae kesa sa sarili nyong anak at asawa…
sa mga anak namn,,, tama kayo, hhugasan lng namn talaga kayo ng tao, dahil wala silng alam sa mga pangyyari.. love your mother, masakit talaga ang ginagawa ng mga ama /asawa na ganyan,,, based on my experience because my husband left us dahil lang sa babae..
First & foremost the father is not asking for forgiveness. He’s asking for money. We are not in the position to tell the daughters what’s right and what is wrong because we never felt their pain. I think the father is still strong enough to work to support his mistress – he can still hit a woman! so why not work to support his 4th woman. And for goodness sake! would you even support a father who abandoned you & hit your mother? Let’s not all be hypocrite here. Once you feel the childrens pain you would know the answer. Yung tingin mong tama eh mali para sa iba.
kung kyo nasa lugar ng mga anak nya maiintindihan nyo lahat.
Based on Experience, Standing in the shoes of those 4 siblings really relates me. I took pity on their mom and also care less for their father. he chose to do that to himself and where are his SSS, philhealth and Senior Citizen benefits, that should cover his daily living allowances and a big plus to his money given to him by his daughters. if he wants to eat, if im one of his daughters, i will definitely send him to Home for the aged. you all know how hard it is to earn money and you will just give it to a person who will spend it to his another family? DAMN.
Please blame no one or war will not come to an end. Would you agree that God gave us an “unworthy father” to learn and become better person? Now, he’s having “ungrateful children” to experience the karma effect of feeling deprived and alone. I knew so well because my father was much worse. It’s ok to share your grievances to unload. Don’t mind what people say, listen only to God’s word. Both parties must practice humility and love unconditionally. Forgive and peace be with you.
I feel you Dr. Mic Ng.. My brother and I ARE still experiencing that situation. We even have to defend our own rights to Court of Appeals. People who are not living in our situation WILL NEVER understand what we are going through, how we feel let alone manage relaionship with fathers like them. People like our fathers blackmail children like us because thats the easiest thing to do to cover their irresponsibilities. Getting sympathy to public who doesnt know the manipulation of our fathers and how they neglect us as children for their selfish acts.
@janet -you have to read the story carefully: His daugters already offered him a place to stay despite of having his 4th mistress, communications are still intact between them and lastly, they are still giving him money. By these measures, do you think that they didn’t forgive their father? Because if not, none of these help were done a long time ago. Their father is still asking for more money because he cannot support his “growing” family and he is getting old. It’s okay to give him money for himself, but including his “big” family!? HELL NO! Kung yung mother ng mga iniwan nya ay nagawang buhayin sila…. Siguro naman yung mga mistress nila they can do the same for their children. Just sharing my thoughts. 🙂
What a shame…. He chose that path to abandon his family.. its clear he doesnt love his daughter and his wife… Nc story tho.. But some ddnt know the whole story they just judge before knowing the all truth..
Issue here is “financial”. Why would the daughers support the new young family of the father? That is so weird and just wrong. Obviously, the father is manipulating the daughters by posting the disturbing pictures. He doesn’t care about them, he embarrasses them. He wants money, that’s all.
2 things> either Janet did NOT read the whole article or she is guilty of something. I know this is a free country and we value freedom of speech but people like you should just keep their opinions to themselves.
God bless the 4 daughters of this man, because despite the pain and suffering they have endured with and without the presence of this sperm donor they have given him financial support.
And for Patricia – you are an AMAZING mother!
JANET maybe you have a very poor understanding.and also kids dont have responsibility of taking care of their parents because it is parents responsibility to take care of their kids. Karma lang yan sa kanya maalala niya lang ang anak niya pag kailangan ng pera. Hirap kasi sa mga tao madaling manghusga ng di nalalaman yung buong kwento.
Kung tatay ko yan isusumpa ko pa sya lol… Yung tatay ng kaibigan ko sumama sa ibang babae at ang nanay Nya sumama din sa ibang lalaki tapos sila magkapatid basta nlng iniwan ng mga magulang. Nung 15 years old na ang kaibigan ko gusto syang kunin ng nanay Nya para gawing prostitute pero kinuha sya ng mga madre at ang mga nakababata nyang kapatid kinuha ng DSWD, ngyn naka tapos n sila ng pag aaral at Maganda na buhay nila dahil sa sarili nilang sikap, dahil Maganda na buhay nila biglang sumulpot ang nanay at tatay nila para humingi ng PEra , abah buti nga di sila pinansin ng nga anak nila, ang mga walang kwentang magulang di sila deserving para mahalin at respetuhin, dapat sila ang maging mabuting halimbawa sa mga anak di yung sila pa ang pasaway.
Two of his children were my schoolmate. They are the gentlest soul you could ever meet, a reflection of how their single mother raised them. I also had the opportunity to work with one of his doctor daughters and she is one of the nicest person I ever met. I was able to say that because when I was an intern with little money and always hungry, she shared her food with me and that act stayed with me throughout these years. She might not remember that small gesture, but it is one of those acts that come back to you when you least expect it. A true testament that kindness is in their nature. Their father is not an honorable man given the act he needed to do to raise funds for his “retirement”. As a father his foremost thought should be to protect his children whatever age they are because that is what a father do. Based on his actions, he is a selfish man looking only after his own interest. Shame on you Mr. Timonera.
I Completely know the feeling since I undergo the same situation. those people judging the children why they abandoned him should in first place know what happened first, there’s always two sides to to a story. and to the father, be responsible for your action, I bet you haven’t told your children your sorry, and if you do so, dont rush your children to forgive you overnight, its a long and painful process that your children have experienced so give it time.
may bagong partner na 25 yr old? Hay nako -_-
Naiintindihan ko ang anak kung bakit ganyan. nagtalikod yung ama sa responsibilidad nung kelangan sya at ngayon na sya na nangangailangan, ganyan ang gagawin nya?
@janet. tama ang sinabi mong ama si Mr Timonera, sa bisa ng inanakan niya ang ina ng 2 doctor at 2 nurse. inamin naman nilang ama nila si Mr. T. wala namang problema doon e. Sa kabilang dako, nagpaka ama ba siya? ginampanan ba niya ang tungkulin ng isang ama? wala sa katungkulan ng tamang ama ang mambabae. Di ba mas mahalaga yung tumindig sa pagiging ama ang isang lalake kesa nagpabaya siya? Ano ba ang description ng ama para sa iyo Janet. at sa kanyang ginawang hiyain sa buong mundo ang kanyang mga anak, gawain ba iyan ng isang matinong ama? Ang alm ko, kahit anong mangyari hindi hihiyain ng totoong ama ang kanyang mga anak. Ipagtatanggol pa nga niya iyane, dahil ang kahihiyan ng anak siya dapat ang unang magdadala.
@janet. tama ang sinabi mong ama si Mr Timonera, sa bisa ng siya ang naging asawa ng ina ng 2 doctor at 2 nurse. inamin naman nilang ama nila si Mr. T. wala namang problema doon e. Sa kabilang dako, nagpaka ama ba siya? ginampanan ba niya ang tungkulin ng isang ama? wala sa katungkulan ng tamang ama ang mambabae. Di ba mas mahalaga yung tumindig sa pagiging ama ang isang lalake kesa nagpabaya siya? Ano ba ang description ng ama para sa iyo Janet. at sa kanyang ginawang hiyain sa buong mundo ang kanyang mga anak, gawain ba iyan ng isang matinong ama? Ang alm ko, kahit anong mangyari hindi hihiyain ng totoong ama ang kanyang mga anak. Ipagtatanggol pa nga niya iyane, dahil ang kahihiyan ng anak siya dapat ang unang magdadala.
We do not have the right to judge anyone! Yes! We do not know the whole story, and what have they gone through for all these years! We cannot blame these children if they have a very strong feeling of dislike to their father. If you hurt for many times the normal reaction of a human being is to revenge! But the main issue in this story is that we are not in the situation, let us just respect both sides, lets pray for them for the betterment of this quarrel and never be a prejudice.
Para sa akin, kahit ano pa ang nagawa ng isang tao, humingi man xa ng tawad o hindi, dapat sa puso nten ay pinatawad na nten xa. Mas pnagpapa. Un la ang ngpappatawad at nagbibigay,alam q kng gaano hirap iwan ng tatay habang lumalaki, pero kung aq ang anak ni tatang, kahit hndi xa humingi ng tawad ok lng, ibbigay q pa din kng ano ang kaya q ibigay, kc isa xang malaking parte ng buhay q, malungkot man yun o masaya. Xa pq dn ang tatay q, nasa 10 commandment un “Honor your fatherand your mother,so that you may live long in the Land the Lord your God is Giving”
Wala pong condisyon ang pagmamahal na dapat ibigay nten sa mga magulang nten.
TJ what the fuck are you saying? mukang mali ang page na na-post mong comment
JUAN, baka nanonood ng drama sa tv si TJ, fan cguro sya nung bida n si TIMONERA,
nawala na sa hulog!!…hihihi!!
RICKY ito kasi si TJ ume-epal lang para magmuka syang mabait..kaso sablay kaya ayan nagmuka lang syang tanga.
ISA KA PANG UTAK GUNG-GONG! Sinabi na ngang ang pera na hinihingi ay pang suporta sa kabit!
This social media is so biased, they do not even know the real story. They just post what they want to believe, majority are becoming hypocrite. I myself is a victim of my dad’s infidelity to my mom, he even bring his bastard to our family home and threaten me to accept his bastard in order for him to provide tuition for me. All those years my mom and I live on that kind of situation just for me to finish my schooling. Now that I am a professional all that I want is to give back everything for my mom but he also want a fair share of it though, “bayad na ang nanay ko sa pagsisilbi sa kanya”. The worst part of it his relative and even my grandma(his mom) supported him for doing that to our family. But he still my father so what we do is co-exist but I promise myself I will never let him hurt again the feelings of my mom. Never again.
@Janet yes he is their dad and they can forgive but they also have a chance to move forward, heal from their wounds and take care of their mom.
Forgiveness is sometimes given in silence they do not even need to spill it out so long us in their hearts they already forgive. I myself already forgive my dad but I do not want to go back to all the heartaches, I will just move forward, take care of my mom and love all the life’s blessing because no matter what hurt I felt before, it just make me stronger.
To all those who suffer from this kind of situation, just pray hard. Live your life and use all the hurt to make you stronger and dream big. DO NOT ever resort to any negativity. We are not a shadow of our parents, we can do better.
He is asking for money, that is plain and simple. Walang pagsisisi man lang o paghingi ng tawad sa mga anak. Bagkus ay panunumbat na puno ng kasinungalingan. He is asking for money to support his other family. Hindi yata fair. At sa issue na “he is their father after all” tanungin naman natin siya “are they his daughters?” noong siya ay puro katarantaduhan ang ginagawa. Isa pa, hindi lang pambababae ang ginawa niya.. scams, rackets.. panloloko sa kapuwa. And this “panawagan kuno” ay isa sa mga scams niya. Nakakapanginig ng laman.
i believe to the daughters of Mr. Timonera, just the same the father of my kids also left us for a mistress till now masarap pa ang buhay nya pero im sure darating din kung ano ang dapat para sa kanya.
Napaka obvious naman na ginagamit ni Mr. Timonera ang social media for black mail, nasangkot na sa madaming scam (according to them) yung tao, syempre kung ano ang in-demand, yun ang gagamitin, may contact naman pala eh, nasaan yung pinabayaan doon? Parehong pareho sila ng ama ko, naaalala lang ang mga anak pag kailangan ng pera..
As I read this article, all I thought of is deja vu. It’s a shame to think and know there are parents who would extort their children. Unfortunately, it’s also the reality and it happens. I would know as my sisters and I have gone through that and possibly still going through it so I know where this man’s children are coming from.
Two things came to mind: 1. people are so quick to jump to their own conclusion even though they cannot relate to the full situation, and 2. the relationship between this father and his children.
To my first point, people are so quick to jump their own conclusion even though they cannot relate to the full situation is really sad. Even though most mean well with their advices, I urge they stop giving their 2 cents in matters they’ve no emotional, psychological and personal knowledge because it’s always easier to say things especially when one has not gone through those motions. Your advice has no basis except theory unless it’s an astute one that’s carefully assessed from all angles.
Second, the relationship between the father and his children, I pity the father. I pity him because after all these years and at his age, he’s yet to realize what he’s really done to one of his family. And even though I don’t know the detailed history of their lives, I can confidently say he’s shown no remorse nor regrets whatsoever – not only for what he’s done in the past but even now. For those who’ve spoken about forgiveness, are you sure he’s even asked for forgiveness from this family in the past? I will, however adamantly say he hasn’t….and the saddest part is very likely he won’t! How can one truly ask for forgiveness yet continue to subject those he’s neglected to extortion – emotional and financial to date? And that is the very reason I pity him. He’s a very old energy-sucking and life destroyer. I pray he realizes what he’s done and ask forgiveness from those he’s wronged before his time.
As for his children, I commend you all for rising to the top of it all – before and now. One cannot blame you for arriving at the decision you’ve made. He may be your father by blood but I don’t think he ever served his role as a father.
To Timonera’s siblings, you have the right to choose and decide to whatever you know is right, you’ve grown enough in spite what your dad did to you but never close your hearts for your dad,actually its just like our family’s story but our mother raised us up not to blame to hate our father but to forgive him and let him to whatever he wanted to do in his life anyway God see all these things and eventually heal your hearts from the pain you endure at the right time.
blackmail and extortion can take many forms. that a father would victimize his own daughters is not impossible. di lang sa pelikula o tv drama ang mga ganoong drama, malimit ito sa istorya ng mga ama na gumon sa mga bisyo at may mga batang kabit, at walang sense of guilt or remorse. so, it is good to hear both sides of the story.
I don’t want to take sides in this story but I think janet is right, baligtarin man ang mundo tatay nyo pa rin yun. Everyone makes mistakes, walang perpekto sa mundo. sabihin na ntin na hindi sya naging mabuting ama sa kanilang apat pero alalahanin nyong matanda na ang tatay nyo. anumang kasalanan nya sa inyo ay dapat n lng cguro ninyong patawarin. all of you are successful enough para masustentuhan ninyo ung tatay nyo, masisikmura ba ninyo na makita sarili nyong tatay sa kalye na palaboy laboy? sabihin n nting may galit kayo, pero c’mon naman, ilang taon n lng ba ilalagi nya dito sa mundo para pagdamutan pa ng tulong pinansyal? lets forgive and forget, kung hindi man kaya isantabi n lng muna ang pride. We must help each other especially those our families in need. Its just my opinion, My opinion might be wrong to others but atleast consider what I am trying say. kung ibang tao nga nagtutulungan sa hindi nila kamaganak sa mga kadugo pa kaya ntin.
ED..title pa lang ng article na to..wala katuturan pinagsasasabi mo..”We Did Not Abandon Him” nga eh..basahin mo kaya uli para di ka magmukang tanga.
“I don’t want to take sides in this story but I think janet is right” – You just took a side you dumb POS! Isipin mo nga ikaw tatay mo may kabit, hihingi ng pera papahiyain pamilya mo para lang makakuha ng pera para matustusan ang kabit niya?? And besides, FORGIVENESS IS NOT HIS ISSUE HERE, It’s MONEY, STUPID! isa ka ring utak gung-gong eh!
assuming but not accepting that your claim is true. its your responsibility to educate your kids for their future and u cant force them to give you something in return, they are not your investment. shame on people like you..
To each his own. When will we learn that our beliefs and principles couldn’t be imposed on others? We all have different approach to every situation.
The daughters are justified to feel what they should feel regarding their father. If they want him back, its good, if not respect their decisions. If we want our world to be a better place to live in, all we need is acceptance/tolerance towards our fellowman and not peace.
janet it is easy for you to say that because maybe that never happened to you. i for one know because i have that kind of father. So don’t you dare judge because you don’t know how it feels and how they feel.
There is a time that you need to stop and think.
This guy is fake. Irresponsible selfish man. This guy shouldn’t have to oblige his children to provide him support. His been given a chance in the beginning to become a good father. Then someday he screw them up. Who ever told him to have a family if he can’t do the duty of being the good father. He suck at it. He eternally suffer what he had now. Consequences is best served cold. The only way to get attention of his situation is through publicity. That’s pathetic.
Kung anong tinanim siyang aanihin…
I agree that he is still their dad no matter what and I also agree that the root of the characters that they become which make them successful right now is due to him. However, I don’t think that haven’t realized this and that they haven’t forgiven their dad. She clearly stated that “hindi namin siya pinabayaan in spite of everything”, it is just their father haven’t realized his own mistakes. If itotolerate mo yung tao na gagawa ng masama, the more na gagawa siya ng masama.
i acknowledge his daughter, were in the same situation and this might happen to us someday in the near future… they re just being practical and wont let it happen again.
Forgiveness without judgement from both sides
Hello Janet:
What’s the fuss? The expression your bitterness is not the way to put this issue to rest. I am a son; a father; now a grandfather. I have 4, the 3 are all successful adults and the remaining 1 is in medical school. Time, money and effort are my investments which I don’t require yield later on. Good, bad or ugly as life will carry us on, there is only one thing which we can’t change or deny, I am the father, and no one can claim that position in my children’s life. Dr. Mic Ng, why not try to look on the opposite direction? Here: The parents are good, the children are evil. Perhaps, you now have a family bountiful with children. Beware if KARMA strikes.
The Lord, my Goad said: Love your enemies as I have loved you. Honor they father and mother. If I may add, mother your children as Mama Mary mothered mankind.
yes his children are in debt of taking care of HIM.. but not his mistress and their children..
This is a family thing and none of us has the right to judge them both. Pag usaping pamilya issues needs to be resolved within the family. The least thing we can do is pray that everything would end well rather than pointing out whose to blame because we are just putting more loads on them and we are not giving them any help. For the family I pray and hope that in God’s due time all will end well for your family. Godspeed po to all.
This is not about asking forgiveness, how shameful what the father did or how cruel the children are. This is the Filipino culture that parents sends their kids to school, let them be successful and use them as their “retirement package”. It is not quite right. People grow old and make choices for themselves. For the father to die in hunger is his choice, he’s old but there’s a lot of things that he can do now or should’ve done before when he was younger for him not to get this kind of life. Sad but true.
Stop this telenovela kind of mindset @Janet. This is reality and I personally would not like to judge but this is not my first account of this kind of womanising and irresponsible attitude of Filipino guys.. Read between the lines and stop saying he is still your dad or whatever ‘forgiving’ comment even if the guy is trying to blackmail his own flesh and own family to get a large amount of money…
Any good, reasonable person, especially a father will never put children into shame. May kasabihan: ‘iingatan ang ating apelyido na hindi mapahiya’.
With him exposing family problem to social media, is character assassination and clearly he is directly killing his family name and what is left of the love, respect and care the original grown-up children has for him.
He wanted to ‘harvest what he did not sow’.
honey, if you have a hatred in your heart because of what he did, crush it. They are old and the years they will be living in this earth is just be counted on your fingers. I think he dont need FINANCIAL support only … HE NEEDS YOU HIS DAUGTHER.. because he realize he done wrong.. although the way he is solving it isnt the right thing. he wants only your attention.. he is having many mistress because he wants someone who will take care of him. just let him be with you and care for him and he will probably will become your dad like when you were kids. EVENTHOUGH he is not that perfect dad.. hope you will be a perfect daughter.. you have the capacity to love your friend.. now give it to your dad. STOP blaming and start forgiving and loving… 🙂
JIMMY DAMIAN ikaw ba si Mr. T?.kasi si Mr. T lang ang makakapagsabi ng mga sinasabi mo
isa ka pang utak gung-gong Mr. Damian! Akala mo kung sino ka makapagsalita knowing what he is thinking and what he needs! If he needs his daughters, bakit di siya humingi ng tawad sa kanila? bakit di siya bumalik nang nag-offer sila ng tirahan para sa kanya? BAKIT NIYA INIWAN ANG ASAWA AT MGA ANAK NIYA NG NA-STROKE ANG ASAWA NIYA??? Magsama sama kayong mga utak Gung-gong!
Mabuti pa nga silang anak at kahit paano ay tinulungan parin nila ang tatay nila , pero syempre tao lang sila nasasagad at napupuno , nakakapagod tumulong sa tao na lolokohin ka pa , kahit sabihin mo pang magulang mo e, Hindi porket Ama ka ok lang abusohin mo ang mga anak mo , at kung mahal mo talaga sila hindi mo sila hihiyain publicly ng ganyan , alam mo naman na pwede ikasira ng buhay nila yan , Mr. T.Sikapin i dont feel his sincerity na magbago at magsisi sa mga kasalanan nya , infact hiniya pa nya ang mga anak nya worldwide what kind of father is that , tama ang mga anak , may number naman pala sya at adress bakit di nalang nya konontak ,, sus! may mga ganyan talagang Tao , nakakalungkot lang talaga! they even take credit for something na wala naman sila nagawa o na contribute , nagtrabaho sya sa ibang bansa , ang tanong nakaalala ba sya magpadala sa mga anak nya , e nangabit pa nga! nako! si Lord na Bahala sayo … you will get what you deserve!
gawin nyo na lang ang narrapat kahit marami siyan ginawang ayaw nyong alalahanin matanda na siya tatay din ako depreeded na siya
Iyan ang isang maling paniniwala ng mga Pilipino na ang anak ang mag susustento sa kanila or retirement plan or gagawin banko sa kanilang pag tanda sa kabila ng kanilang pag kukulang ginawa sa kanilang mga anak. Responsibilidad ng mga magulang na itaguyod ang kanilang mga anak para sila ay mag karoon ng magandang buhay at gabayan sila sa kanilang pag laki. Yan ang role ng magulang. Hindi ang hingan ang anak kung ano ano. Dapat pag handaan din ng mga magulang ang kanilang pag tanda ng hindi sila umaasa sa kanilang anak. It is not about sya ang Magulang mo or ang rason na wala ka sa lugar na kinalalagyan mo dahil sa kanila. Iyan ay dahil sa pag susumikap nila at ng kanilang Ina kaya sila nakarating sa estado an ganyan hindi dahil sa kanilang AMA.
ANG ISA SA PINAKA IMPORTANTING PARTI NG MGA MAGULANG SA KANILANG MGA ANAK…AY FINANCIAL SUPPORT SA LAHAT NG ASPECT SA PANAHON NA KAILANGAN PA ITO NGA MGA ANAK NYO..DAHIL HINDI PA SILA PWEDE MAGTRABAHO DAHIL MGA BATA PA SILA…KUMBAGA…MAGTANIM KA PARA MAYROON KANG AANIHIN….DAHIL PAGDATING NG PANAHON NA MATANDA NA KAYO..AT ANG MGA ANAK NYO NAMAN ANG MAY TRABAHO KAYO NAMAN ANG BUBUHAYIN NILA..
KUNG PAGMAMAHAL ANG ITINANUM NINYO SA INYUNG MGA ANAK…PAGMAMAHAL DIN ANG AANIHIN NYO PAGDATING NG PANAHON NA KAILANGAN NYO ITO…
KUNG DUMATING MAN ANG PANAHON NA KAYA NA NGA MGA ANAK NYO ANG TUMAYO KAHIT WALA NA KAYONG MGA MAGULANG NYA…HINDI NIYA KAYO PABABAYAAN..DAHIL HINDI NILA MAKAKALIMUTAN ANG PANAHON NG PINAKITA NYO ANG PAGMAMAHAL AT SUPPORTA SA KANIA……
SA MGA MAGULANG NA PINABAYAAN NG KANILANG MGA ANAK….ALAM NYO NA ANG SAGOT SA UNA KUNG NASULAT………HINDI YAN MAINTINDIHAN NGA MGA TAONG..HINDI NAGKULANG ANG MGA MAGULANG SA KANILA…DAHIL AKALA NILA ANG MAGULANG AY MAGULANG…PERO SA NAKARAMDAM NG ABUSE SA MAGULANG NONG MGA BATA PA SILA…ALAM NILA ANG NARAMDAMAM NG PINABAYAAN NG MAGULANG….
none of your business guys. just mind yours. anong alam natin para magmagaling at mangaral? nasa point si Dr. Mic Ng.
Usapang pamilya yan wag nang makisumsum.
Everybody has their own sides. Own reasons. Just pray to God everyone. Then everything will be Okay Simple as that 🙂
Lahat kasi nagmamarunong, nagpapangaral, kanya kanyang komento. Lahat gusto magaling. Lahat gusto bida. As if naman concern na concern talaga kayo? E karamihan naman gusto lang magpapansin. Kung ako sa inyo? Ipagdasal nyo nalang silang pamilya. Kasi kahit anong sabihin nyo di naman kayo yung makakaayos nyan kundi sila din mismo. As if naman nakakatulong yang mga comment nyo? Di nila kelangan ng mga panghuhusga nyo. Obvious naman kung ano dapat nilang gawin sa problema nila na yan. Lahat tayo may kanya kanyang problema. Mind your own problem nalang hindi yung mga nakikisapaw pa kayo. Pagdasal nalang natin sila baka sakaling nakatulong pa tayo sa pamilya nila. 🙂
Don’t believe everything in the internet..
Stories can be easily fabricated..
No one can judge such situation without knowing the whole story..
So please don’t give a damned advice if you don’t have the first hand info..
Gossips are there everywhere..
Don’t make yourself look foolish by believing easily..
tama lang ang ginagawa ng nga anak. “tatay mo pa rin yan” applies only in terms of respect sa magulang..na wag sagutin, wag pahiyain, wag patulan. pero kung ganyan naman na paulit ulit na nyang sinisira ang buhay ng mga anak nya, dapat lang dumistansha na sila.isang tulong, takbo. pag humingi, bigay. pag walang maibigay, next time nalang. hindi obligasiyon ng mga anak kunsintihin un maling buhay na pinili ng ama nila i.e., another 25 old mistress
@Janet and Don,
I agree that they should forgive him for his past. BUT, they should only do so if he actually asks for forgiveness.
Put yourselves in the children’s positions. You have someone who has hurt you and done you wrong. But the issues were not left in the past. He continues to hurt and harass the family he has forsaken. Will you be okay with that? Will you be happy and embrace with open arms someone who continues to hurt you and your family? If you are open to this then I must say that you condone abusive relationships and that is not right.
I believe the family’s stance on this monster is correct. Ignore him. This is their problem and we all shouldn’t be so nosy.
To the idiot that reported this whole issue via interview, I hope you have no intention of being a journalist. He should have researched the other sides of the matter instead of posting some half-assed attempt to help a pitiful old man. What that guy did was just give this guy a means to hurt his family even further and possibly profit from those in the internet that have soft hearts.
To err is human, to forgive divine. Whatever it takes, Forgive and Forget. Father God wants us all to learn that. Because, no matter how sinful we all are, He still gave His only begotten Son to die for our sins. Nobody is perfect. We understand your hard feelings, coz it must be so hurting to have been left and abandoned by the “never-ending womanizing of your dad,” especially if it is your own biological mom he’s been trying to repeatedly cheat on despite all the supports you’ve been giving to him. Not until we wear the shoes the Timonera Children in USA are wearing, we will not feel the tucks that kept hurting them. DO WHAT YOU FEEL IS JUST AND HUMANE. The decision is all yours!
This is a lesson for all filipinos. Hindi lahat ng kawawa ay dapat kaawaan. Meron sa kanila ay nahulog lamang sa butas na sarili nilang gawa. Hindi lang mga mayayaman ang marunong mang abuso.
This is exactly the same situation being used by politicians seeking power through peoples votes. Deceiving most of us of the truth and using publicity for those filipinos na mahilig manghusga without even thinking kung ano situation. In the end kawawa si juan.
we are just all human…if our heart is full of hatered and unforgiveness we will never fulfill our obligation as children to our parents though our parents haven’t fulfill their obligations to their children..sometimes its so hurting when our forgiveness to our parents is too late.. GOD forgive us in many, many, many times…to eer is human to forgive is devine..wish all children out there to please do our obligation to our parents(whatever/no matter what) even though our parents failed their obligations to us. May God bless us all always..
NONIE ayan na naman ang forgiveness na yan..basahin mo kaya uli?.baka maintindihan mong pinatawad at tinutulungan parin ng anak ang ama..tapos saka ka magdasal na biyayaan ka ng pagintindi na malinaw na wala ka at kailangan mo.
ganyan din tatay q !!! pabaya … awa ng dios namatay nat lahat ni hnd kami nagkapatawan ..
This is the problem in social media most of the time…. some posted for themselves para sumikat o makilala, ‘ah si Pedro Macapagal ang nag-post nyan’ without thinking a hundred times if the people will benefit or will be destroyed from it.
I agree with Dr. Mic Ng that this matter is so personal and private, we cannot change the circumstances, just leave them alone. I believe someday, somehow they will be reunited as family.
Why don’t you just post your own story rather than posting other people’s private life without consent.
Always remember that there is a consequences on every sin or mistake, you will reap what you sow.
may I take this opportunity to share the life of Joseph from the Bible. His brothers beat and drop him to the well, sold him to an Egyptian Trader, he was prisoned, accused by the Egyptian ruler’s wife and punished. bagamat siya inosente at walang kasalanan nangyari sa kanya ang mga ganun. but, despite of those experienced he granted forgiveness to his brothers. To the daughters of Mr. Timonera although your father intented it for bad, God turned it for your good. Sana magkaroon ng reconcillation ang family niyo baka po ang kwento ng family niyo ang gigising sa mga iba pang pamilya who has the same situation. It is my prayer that God will heal this broken relationship. Godbless
Parents do everything for their chilren kahit ikamatay nila gagawin nila whag lang masaktan at mapahiya ang anak nila kanyan ang mapagmahal na magulang.
Magulang ka rin, magulang na tayo isipin mo kaya kung mahal mo ang anak mo masikmura mo kayang gawin yang nababasa mo na ginagawa ng matandang iyan?
Ako hindi ko magawa sa mga anak ko kahit may kasalanan sila sa akin diko magawa yan kasi mahal ko mga anak ko ….
Iyan ang isipin nating mabuti wag tayong mang husga………
It sounds like this man is a dead beat dad! What a scum bag! In my opinion, he does not deserve to be called the father of these children— he still acts like a child despite his age or he may have some form of mental illness otherwise, why would a person in his right mind abandon his children and continues to inflect misery and pain to them?
It’s hard to give money to a father when he is just going to bring the money home for her mistress…can’t imagine how a father could do such a thing…having multiple partners and milking his children for money…shaming them….its not hard to define what kind of man he is….clearly he chose the wrong path…if he stayed good same as the mother did….he would have received the same care as what the children are giving to their mom…the only good thing that father did is to give his children a motivation to improve the shit life that father gave them…
Well we cant really judge them and take sides without really knowing the story. People these days are shady anyone can make a smokescreen about the truth. The father might be right or the daughters who knows. You need facts first before judging them with just a second hand story from social media. I believe these family problems should be remain private. What can social media do? nothing. It just make things worst. If you put yourself in the father’s position, its really heart breaking when your children left you as you nurture them when they’re growing up. Vice-versa when you look up at your father as a role model you relied and depend on him when needed him but chose to leave you, it would tear you apart. Some people would say he’s still your dad stuff etc., these people didn’t even experience such thing. I doubt it if they experienced it they would still wish they had the same father. Especially for children being abused and molested by parents, I doubt that they never wish they had different parents. Peace. No Hate.
Janet i cant stress enough how stupid you are.
His a father is a liar. If he really love his family, he will never do such idiot things to embarrased them in public. Anyway, nkarelate ako on this story its bcoz my husband abandoned us too wth my kids and im raising them alone. I just hope and pray that this will never happen to me and to my children someday. I just hope through ur story people will learn not to judge a person by its cover. God bless you and ur family.
Dont be moved by rumors or bad insults. Go and move on. Make peace with your Creator. You have spoken and that is enough.
My grandfather left my grandmother and his family for another woman, they have 4 children 3 girls and 1 boy. My grandma did everything to support her family eventually the children became professional and my dad helped my mom to finish her schooling. After several years of not seeing their father especially my mom since she’s only 5 yrs old they still managed to forgive him and take care of him, visited him once in a while. See?just like your father my grandfather is also a womanizer, if you don’t hold grudges and if you don’t have trust to another family why don’t you just bring your father to the US?you can just put him in Home for the Aged and let another caregiver take care of him at least in that way you don’t have to send money to your father.
A Father is A Father.. What ever he did wrong he is still a father… In this world only a man or a woman with a big heart can forgive but no body can forget.. In the Testimony I have read and saw in the youtube, I can only say that the Father didn‘t di his responsibility and his obligation as a father so they didn‘t have any choice but to left him but dispite of everything they still supported him though we can say that he is never been contented due to his vices, pagiging babaero na niya ay ginawa na niyang bisyo.. Good to know the other side if the story and hope the media could take both sides story so to clarify evrything else.. D sa nakikialam tayo sa buhay ng may buhay pero c tatang na dn ang nag umpisa at ito nga at sinagot na ng anak at nalaman natin ano ba talaga ang motibo o rason ng bawat isa.. Ngayon hayaan na natin sila na sila magresolba sa problemang pampamilya.. Ang sugat naghihilom pero may pilat na maiiwan na magpapaalala paano at ano pakiramdam ng isang taong masugatan at masaktan…
Hehehe… Lots of comments are out of context. . . . This is why I always read the comments… it shows home many idiots are there….
—> But here is my thought, to call a man a father is not by blood but by action. . .
Even a step-dad can do better. . . .
“Having the same blood makes you related, But to care someone makes you a family”
Thank God that He gave me a father who is very responsible and hardworking. He is the best father ever. He loves us so much , he sacrificed a lot for our studies. He is very kind and malambing. Oh God i miss my father so much and today should’ve been his 67th birthday but he’s gone now, maybe he’s celebrating in heaven today for his birthday. God the father thank you for giving us our papa who’s very kind, loving, hardworking thank you for that Lord. Aug 16
Wla kau s klgayan ng anak.my kakilala aqng gnito.pnay hingi ng pera s mga anak tpos sinasabong lang,hindi ba dapat ang mgulang ang my obligasyon s anak.kung anu man ang nrating ng ng anak kung naging doctor o nurse.swerte dba..ska ung tulong ng anak s magulang choise un,hindi obligasyon.sna yung mga magulang na imbis itaguyod ang anak ay lalo pang pnhhrapan ang mga anak,sna mag kaisip kayo.rama lang ang gnwa ng anak dito.wag n bugyan ng suporta yan..abusado ang tawag s mga magulang na gnito..
at one point to another father is a father and i have that wealth, i guess i sill to turn all my fathers bad habit into good… if i am a good sibling and i wanted to get my family whole again i will move mountains to get even a little chance.
Tama nmn yun.Bago tayo manghusga alamin muna natin ang katotohanan.
Give him insurance and allowance needed for him to live in a retirement home. That way he can’t continue ruining his life and you can communicate with him.
I commend the unconditional love that the four children has shown.They still acknowledged him as their father and shared part of their blessings to him despite the tribulations he has left them.
I apologize because I may sound one-sided but it is too apparent that he wounded the children’s life repeatedly and so it is just right to prevent him from doing it again or to never condone the untoward act of their father.
Nonetheless, I still believe that reconciliation will take place in God’s perfect time.
(Correction)
“Four children have shown”
Mali yang si lolo dyan… Una pa lang alam ko nang bogus yan. May celfone number pero hinahanap ang mga anak? Wtf!!!! Saka kung lahat ng anak at nanay inaalagaan ‘mgkakasama’ sila? Common sense si lolo tlga yan! Laki ng prob ni lolo ngayon. Siraulo ka kasi eh..
Bigyan nyo pera. Every month sa laki ng sahid nyo. Den learn to forgive fast is fast… D nman cguro kbwsn ang sahod nio sa maliit n bbgay nio sa knya… I tink he learn from his mistake sa tanda na n tatay. Forgive and forget. Wag n plakihen anh isyu…. Dem..
UNKNOWM ka-text ko si Mr. Timonera..forwad ko sa kanya comment mo at ito ang reply nya..”tama ang mga sinasabi mo..comment ka pa ha..kapag nabigyan na ako ng pera ng mga anak ko..pangako magiging kabit kita at aanakan kita ng isang dosena.”
pera lng yan 🙂 matnda n yan 🙂 ilan taon nlng b buhay nyan 🙂 pag bigyan nyo na pag nmaty nman yan edi wala na , 🙂
saka malay nga b nmin kung totoo ung sinsavi mo
you did right of explaing your side… for the bushers please dont be judgemental…
I think the blame here should be on the 25 yearl old girl who is clinging to this old man for the sake of survival. This incident is not new to me because it also happend in my family,. And is still happening,. Young girls tend to take advantage of this old people because they know they can easily deceive them coz some are already suffering from being “ulyanin’. Old people sometimes are not rational when they reach this certain age. So yung mga batang babae na to ang pilit nagtatake advantage at nagdidikta o nagsasabi n humingi k ng ganto, ganya sa mga anak mo since they know na well off ang mga anak nya. Where in fact ikw itong mas bata, bakit hindi ka magsikap pra tulungan mo ang matandang ito kung talagang mahal mo xa, diba? Some may say “ama mo parin yan, dpat magpatawad” ka, pero if paulit ulit naman nya ginagawa ito, napkahirap po ata nun. Why not put your selves in the daughters place? Hindi po madali na hingan ka ng malaking halaga ng pera, gamit, at minsan pati bahay ng iyong ama para lang ibigay sa babaeng kabit nya, na kita mo nmn na sa masama dinadala ang iyong ama,. Siguro po kung para sa ama lang nila, ok pa,. Pero pra ibigay sa mga babae nya, sala na po ata yun. Im not sure if ito po ay mga sindikato rin, kasi dumadami na po ang mga ganto incident. So lets just pray na gabayan c tatay para makapgisip ng tama. Kasi naniniwala po ako na ang sanhi ng pagiging mali ni tatay ay dahil sa mga babaeng nanunukso at ngtatake advantage sa kahinaan nya. They are the cause of why some ruined families are still being ruined more to the point that its unfixable.
P.S. hindi ko po nilalahat ng mga matatandang lalaki ay ganto magisip pag tumanda. Hindi ko rin po nilalahat ang mga may young-old relationship ay ngttake advantage.
This is just my opinion based on experience.
you cannot blame what his children has gone through as according to their message.
maybe you can say all negativity to his children, but of course he is their father and without him they’ll be not here.
support is a voluntary not a “sapilitan” or by force or whatever as what their father’s.
in this case, it is for them to decide not us. it’s their own family, their own way of solving it.
what worst in this case was that it gone viral in fb, not thinking those who upload it the real scores.
maybe as father, they pity on him.
use the brain, not thy emotion…..
obvious na blackmail yan, umpisang kita ko palang dito. kumukuha ng simpatya ng tao para masira ang anak? hindi ugali ng matinong magulang ang sirain ang anak. pare parehas natin di alam ang tunay na story nila. pero sa ginawa nung matanda ilagay ang picture ng mga anak at ilagay ang mga pangalan nito. hindi lahat ng matanda dapat kunsintihin. ang tawag dyan walang pinagkatandaan….
e iniwan na pla kayo ehh…
tama lang na pabayaan nyo rin sya
katulad ng kanyang pagpapabaya
NYA sa inyo dati…
…. at gagawin pa kayong financier
ng kanyang new whore…
“wag nyong pansinin ang sasabihin
ng ibang tao at media” as in WALANG MAWAWALA..
,,,dahil kung kukunsintihin nyo naman sya ”
ikakatuwa nya, at sya lang ang ma22wa,
“””” ang pinaka mahirap pukasaing
manloloko, ay ang mismong
kamag-anak mo “”””
..its just a blood ties,
subconscious mo nga hinihindian mo,
sya pa kay..
to forgive is enough,
but to be use again
“ibang storia na yon,,,
” but then in the END, its your decision,
and its just my opinion. GOD BLESS!
The children didn’t forget that he is their Dad…though sadly, with shame. Instead of providing his children & legal wife their basic needs, he chose to leave them & be in comfort with other women. And now that he is old, he is claiming the other way around? Shame on you, Geezer!!!! While it is true that God commands us to honor our father and our mother, parents in return MUST NOT impose on their children. To begin with, children did not ask to be born.
tatta ta agrigaten sapat dumawat idi kapigpigsaanna nagpabaya,dusa kaniana dayta,patinggana tatta luklukuenna latta dagti annak na…adda pay chicks na nga 25years old ania met dayta…..
Kahit tatay nila yan. Kung paulit ulit namang gumagawa ng kalokohan at pang ba-blackmail. Magsasawa ka at mawawalan ka ng dahilan para alagaan at suportahan siya. Nakakapagod kaya mag alaga ng hindi marunong magtanda at magbago.
Gumawa tyo ng mabuti sa kapwa, ma kaanak,kaibigan,sa kaaway o sa hindi ntin kilala. Iyan ang utos sa atin ng ating Amang nsa langit na gawin sa ating kapwa. Iyan ang ating tungkulin dito sa lupang pansamantala nting tinatayuan. Ang Dios ang may karapatang humusga at magparusa sa iyong magulang. Ngunit nagampanan mo ang ang iyong tungkulin na iniutos sa iyo para sa mga magulang at kapwa tao. God Bless You.
naka tulong din sigruro si tatay kasi high school na iniwan…..naligaw ng landas ang matanda….well pwede bigyan ng tulong naayon sa pangangailangan nya…kung abusado bahala sya…..mukhang mabaiit naman ang mga anak at mga edukado…si tatay lang me problem….
Napaka gago naman ninyong lahat para maki alam sa problema ng iba. Wala kayong karapatan husgahan yung mga anak o kahit yung tatay kasi hindi ninyo alam ang istorya, at never kayo nakasali sa istorya ng buhay nila. Give your sympathy if that is what you feel giving but don’t give your opinion kasi hindi naman nila hinihingi. Mga nagmamagaling pa yung iba, eh kung pektusan ko kayo tig iisa?
me sulsol dito …kasi yung banner eh maganda pagkakagawa..at naka punta pa manila to get attention….tatay maging masaya na kayo sa anak nyo ..kahit iniwan nyo maayos mga naging buhay…bilang ama na nag kulang me ibigay o wala di nyo sila masisisi……. matanda na kayo
wag na gumawa kalokohan knowing me 25 years old ka na waswit eh pera pera talaga yan….kung sa inyo lang siguro eh sapat na binibigay ng anak nyo….
It’s easy for us to talk about forgiveness and caring to elders. The truth is, we were not there when it happened. We did not experience the pain and hardships they went through. And yes, why will they work hard and share it with someone who caused them pain and sleepless nights? Worse, share it with his new family that they do not even know? If in their shoes, I will do the same thing.
This is not about taking sides. I feel for you (all the daughters) of this man who sends out wrong message to everyone. This should be private. And what he does really is a blackmail. You could really do that most esp. if you don’t have money or food in your stomach. I understand you Mr. Napoleon, but you have brought all of these upon yourself. Why are you dragging your daughters into these madness? This should not be tolerated. All parents must know that you are responsible to raise us because YES if not for you, we are not here. But, we have the right to also decide whether or not we are going to take the responsibility and help you. Im a filipina and a straight Catholic. I love my parents so much even though my dad had too many mistresses as well. But, my dad never did this to us or even his family. He knows what he did and take full responsibility to his chosen life with these other women. If he’s still alive today, I will give him money, clothes, shelter etc. But, I will make sure that he’s going to stay right where he is to keep the boundary and build our walls around it protecting ourselves too. Money is evil. You guys should talk about this in a one confined room not here. Mr. Napoleon, your kids are professionals. Do not mock them just because you can.
If you really have a heart to your dad, why don’t you just get him, live with him and give the best that you can do to make him happy. Forget the past, all of you have mistakes, nobody is perfect. What you can do is to make everybody happy bringing back togetherness. He is old and will never bother you when he’s gone. It’s never too late. God will love you more if will you do that.
@LULU. The things that you are asking to there daughter had already been done. They have provided their father with place to live, food to eat and money to buy what he wants. BUT the father isn’t contented with that, he wants his daughter to take care of his other families, to support his vices until he dies and to be forever indebted to him as their father. If they will not do that, he wants to ruin the life of his daughters and their families by shaming them in public media. And by giving in with the desire of their father, would it be tolerating his wrongdoings and making him sin more. Maybe if he has more money, he will find another woman to be his mistress. With this in mind, will you still support the father?
ms. LULU, pag kinuha nila ang tatay nila, syempre ksama ang pamilya sa labas nito…kung ikaw kya ang nsa kalagayan ng mga daughters nya, kakayanin m ba?? papayag ka ba?? kakasamahin mo sa iisang bubong ang mga kapatid mo sa labas at stepmother mo na 25yrs old, na kapisan ang real mother mo…??? sa tingin mo eh matutuwa kya ang nanay mo??sabi mo kasi “MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY” eh malamang mauna pang matigok ang nanay mo sa dambuhalang katangahan mo!!!…mabuti pang kumuha ka n lng ng MARTILYO!! at ipukpok mo sa ulo mong walang laman!!!…umayos ka! bwiseeet!!!
Try to think about this.. kung mabuti syang ama, for sure walang anak na iiwan ang kanyang ama sa Pilipinas. Sana Ng Harvest na siya ang pinaghirapan nya para sa kanyang anak, at sana d sya naghihirap ngayon. I know na kailangan natin respetuhin ang ating pamilya kahit anung mangyari, pero kung umabot na tayo sa ating mga limitasyon, kaya nyo pa ba mg extend pa ng pagmamahal para sa naglolokong ama? Don’t be too hypocrite guys! napapagod rin ang tao, nagtry rin ang kanilang anak para sa pangangailangan niya, pero panu kng winawaldas nya lang? kung kayo ang nasa lugar ng kanyang anak, anu ang gagawin mo?
D ko sinasabing Hindi nyo respetuhin ang inyong Ama or mahal sa buhay, akin lang huwag na kayo sana maghusga ng kapwa nyo! Si God nalang bahala sa kanila..
tama nga naman si KEN…hehehe i have same story with their daughters….grade 1 palang ako nun alam ko na….hanggang ngayon nasa mistresss pa din nya….naging successfull yung mga anak nya dahil xempre challenge yung sa kanilang situation..ang pagpapatawad naman eh madaling ibigay yung…pero yung ibalik yung dating sitwasyon nila mahirap na yon..
LULU…madaling magsabi na maging mabuti o tanggapin nalang ang lahat para maging masaya na sila…at xempre kapag maganda sinabi mo makakakuha ka ng simpatya…e kung ikaw kaya nasa kalagayan nila…masasabi mo ba ng ganyan kadali yan? para maging masaya nalang kayo…it seems na OK lang na gawin yung ginagawa ng mga abusadong magulang dahil in the end papatawarin din naman sila? eh malamang dadami ang magiging kagaya nila???
Very well said to Mr. Leon Gorge
Kaya ako..pag nagco-coment..sa gitna lang ako kahit alam ko me mali talaga sa isang side..kasi me mga damdamin din nman ang mga involve..di sila bato..tinatalaban din nmn..
Mahirap po na maghusga sa alin man po sa kanila. Pero po kong totoo man na may communication po silang mag pamilya. Sana naman po hindi na umabot pa sa medya at ipinangkaratula pa ang mga pangalan ng anak at sabihin na pinabayaan sya, sana din po naitanong nya sa sarili nya kong tama bah ang ginawa nyang yun. Kasi kong tunay kang nagmahal sa mga anak mo hindi mo ilalagay sila sa kakahiyan kundi poprotektahan mo sila. Bilang magulang, kong gusto mong mahalin ka ng mga anak mo mahalin mo sila ng buong buo. ipakita mo ang pagiging ihimplo, pagtatrabho at pagpapakahirap alang alang sa kanila ……
Mahirap pong magtimbang ng tama o mali kong tayo po ay wala sa kanilang kinatatayuan. Ang akin lang po wag naman nating husgahan ang mga anak kong anu man ang kinahihinatnan ng buhay ng kanilang ama. Dahil ang kanilang ama ang pumili ng buhay na kinahihinatnan nya ngayon.. 🙂
To those who commented without knowing the side of children please apologize for the hurt that you cause them. I’m a father myself and I will give everything I can afford to my children without expecting anything in return. They do not owe me anything because it is the my obligation to support even my grandchildren as long as I’m capable of doing that.
nakupu,,agad agad hinusgahan ang mga anak dahil sa post ng tatay na kesyo pinabayaan sya at napagtapos nya ang mga eto dahil sa pagiging OFW nya na wala daw utang na loob. Hayy naku dapat sguro alamin muna natin ang side ng inaakusahan bago tayo manghusga yan napahiya tuloy kayo !
I understand the daughters.. Pero nakakainis etong nasa top comments, walang logical thinking… Etong c Janet, why so intense in writing girl? Naka-all caps kapa talaga ha.. For what? To make your comments fully readable para mapansin ka? Nagbasa ka nga ba talaga sa message nya? Or you just did not understand her explanation to what she really want to impart kasi in english sya? First, you need not to make you comments all capital letters, it is informal to read. Please? Sakit sa mata and you sounds like bitter.. Wala kang right Janet to dictate what they should do because they know that already. Doctors and nurses nga sila diba? Of course they already forgive their father, sinusuportahan pa nga sya kahit hindi nya nagampanan ang pagiging ama nya. Kahit di sya naging mabuting asawa, at least man lang naging mabuting ama sya. Pero wala sa dalawa ang na-fulfill ni Mr. T. He even blackmailed her daughters just to send him money even though they know na i-gagastos lang nya eto sa ibang pamilya nya. Tama ba yun? If you were on their shoes, you worked hard, pero yung pinaghihirapan mo napupunta lang sa mistress nya? Even myself would not tolerate that also. Sometimes, may hangganan ang lahat.. If this Mr. T only fulfill his responsiblities as their father, malamang nakasandal na eto sa magandang upu-an ngayon, kumakain nang masasarap na pagkain, nag-aantay na subu-an. Tama nga yung saying.. “You reap what you sow.”
By the way asawa ko ang nagpatapos sakin!! watta word!! ure such a lame!!
ang tanga pre…isang scoop na lang ba brain mu..out of topic..you faggot.
This discussion could go on and on but the bottom line is, it’s none of our business to judge. I wish people would just shut up and keep their opinions to themselves specially since we don’t know the whole story
kawawang janet….ikaw na lang kaya mag adopt sa father nila…pupurihin pa kita.
janet owh janet!!!!!!!!!!!.go fuck yourself. suck my dick.you asshole.
Am actually ANGRY about this particularly with the one who has posted it online. This is a form of slander, gossip and trial on the internet. You don’t post something like this without getting both sides’ stories You can help someone, sure. Just take his pic and say “This man is looking for his family”, no more than that. Btw, he knows their phone numbers and addresses. Its very obvious this is a form of revenge and blackmail: “Am on hunger strike till my kids help me.” For “abandoning” one’s parent am sure they have very serious family issues. This picture, and the video, should be removed and that bugger who has posted it should be sued. I guess its time to have a LAW against this kind of thing. I have seen a lot of very similar cases here on FB – posted by ignorant and stupid facebookers and bloggers.
After reading the statement from his daughter, all I can say is, what a scumbag the father is. He doesn’t even deserve to be called a father. He is an OPPORTUNIST, IMMORAL and NO SENSE OF DECENCY ON HIS BONES! What father would do these to his kids? If I were his children, I wouldn’t even go to his funeral – and believe me, God will understand. God doesn’t support immoral people! Being a biological father doesn’t give you the right to BLACKMAIL, HARASS, OR ABUSE your children. YOU HAVE TO EARN THAT RESPECT FIRST BY BEING A GOOD FATHER!
The children are absolutely WRONG and practitioners of apostasy ! What does the Holy Bible say ?
Sirach 3: 12-16
“2 My child, take care of your father when he grows old; give him no cause for worry as long as he lives. 13 Be sympathetic even if his mind fails him; don’t look down on him just because you are strong and healthy. 14 The Lord will not forget the kindness you show to your father; it will help you make up for your sins. 15 When you are in trouble, the Lord will remember your kindness and will help you; your sins will melt away like frost in warm sunshine. 16 Those who abandon their parents or give them cause for anger may as well be cursing the Lord; they are already under the Lord’s curse.”
Pano naman yung umabandona sa mga anak nila? Common sense naman. Walang tao ang dapat tratuhin na basahan para apak apakan lang, or tratuhin na parang namumulot lang sila ng pera.
TOMAS M. BARRAMEDA why do you have to use bible verses to show off your being self righteous? There are verses in the bible on being a good father. Ephesians 6:4 Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. Colossians 3:21 Fathers, do not exasperate your children, so that they will not lose heart. Psalms 127:3-5 Behold, children are a gift of the LORD, The fruit of the womb is a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior, So are the children of one’s youth. How blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them; They will not be ashamed When they speak with their enemies in the gate. Proverbs 13:22 A good man leaves an inheritance to his children’s children, And the wealth of the sinner is stored up for the righteous. Psalm 103:13 – “As a father has compassion on his children, so the LORD has compassion on those who fear him”. DO NOT USE THE WORD OF GOD TO PASS JUDGEMENT ON OTHERS. HERE IS MY PARTING VERSE FOR YOU:
Luke 6:37
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;
Eto lang masasabi ko…i respect all the comments and I dont have to argue w/ that.
Pero eto Maipapayo Sa mga Anak ni Mr. Napoleon Wala Kayong Utang sa Tatay nyo.
Na dapat na pag bayaran sa buong buhay nyo. Kung kaya nyang mag asawa ng mas Bata sa inyo
ibig sabihin kaya nyang Buhayin yun ng hindi iniaasa sa inyo Sapat na yung natulungan nyu sya pero hindi ibig sabihin na responsibilidad nyo din ang bagung asawa nya . 25 ung babae 73 si tatay nap. baka mag ka anak pa sya ng 2 doctor at 2 nurse…
sapalagay ko tama ang mga anak naiintindihin ko sila.same ng pamilya ko…tatay ko nag aabroad dati pero puro pang babae lang inatupag di kmi pinag aral kami ng dalawa kong kapatid na babae nag tulong tulong para makatapos kmi sa pag aaral ng walang tulong galing sa kanya..agree ako sa bible pero yung sugat na binigay samin ng tatay ko kahit sabihin mong napatawad ko na sya andun pa rin di naalis lagi bago..ngaun matanda na sya gusto nya ipaako sakin ang mga anak nya sa labas tama ba yun..pilit kung binabago buhay namin mag nanay..nanay ko lang dapat ang atensyon ko kasi nanay ko lang ang di tumalikod samin magkakapatid hanggan ngayon.. wala po sana magagalit kasi lahat ng bagay sa mundo may dahilan,lahat ng poot may pinanggagalingan…
he is your father… you still owe your lives to him…just give enough for his sustenance or better put him in a home for the aged. Assigning a relative to manage his expenses and not letting him handle his expenses himself. that could be arranged. I hope i have given you a rightful advice. We as Christians should be good samaritans. All is well that ends well!!!
i don’t know how would tell this guy how to survive. I am also facing the same predicament. This guy has no principle in life. He should not throw the bone to his kids. The role of a father is to provide the family,come what may. love them to most. I you cant provide them materially. support them morally. It’s not the material thing that counts. One should not expect to be reciprocated. Even if you are the parent. Sacrifice for them because the only consolation that they we may receive from our children, is bury us with dignity, we may not know it by then, but people around us will for surely know that you are a man with dignity.
our children have their own destiny, and we have our own. if they don’t want to recognize us. so be it.
good thing i have a new four year daughter with my common law wife, whom I drew strength and inspiration despite my aging body…. and a pauper… survive to the fittest and let life goes naturally… we re all gonna die any way… we don’t need alms… its not our kids obligation…do good deeds…time … will come (who knows) late or never they will realize what they did to you….
s tono ng pnanalita ng anak eh halatang meron silang hidwaan ng kanilang tatay dahil nrin cguro s ngawa ng kanilang ama pero kung anu man ang ngawa ng tatay nya s ngaun eh am sure may dahilan un at isa daw s sahilan ay may iba n shang pamilya at kelnagn nya suportahan sila kya nanghihingi sha s mga anak nya s una …pero ang malinaw s ngaun ay hndi mganda ang kalagayan ng kanilang tatay s piling ng knayang kinakasama s ngaun kung totoo man n meron ng ibang pamilya…ito lng sna tandaan nating mga anak …KUNG WLA ANG MAGULANG NATIN WLA TAU S MUNDO as wla ka literally kung ngawa nya kaung iwanan o pbayaan lately eh cguro nmn nun baby kpa eh pinakain ka nya at inalaagan para mabuhay at lumaki kau ..wag tau magsawa tulungan ang magulang ntini alisin s kinalalagayan nyang kagipitan s ngaun kapit n sha s patalim eh s edad nya n un mahirap n sha mkahanap ng trabaho n kya suportahan sha hndi mdali ginwa nya n nkakahiya un n para shang pulubi s mga m,ata ng tao ilan taon nlng ba ang itatagal nya s mundo??mga sampu ??sna maayos nyo ulit relasion nyo may dahilan shang mabigat kung bakit nya ngagawa un ngaun un black mailing kung totoo man cguro umabot n s ganun dahil kulang din kau s suporta s knya s pngangailangan nya kung hndi ako nagkakamali ang tatay ay tatay ntin pag balibaliktarin man ang mundo tatay mo parin yan ang bumuo at nag alaga senyo nun sanggol pa kau
alammo hirap ng lagi kang umaasa. anak mo man yan o pulitiko, isa lang masasabi ko sayo, wag kang tira ng tira… kahit tatay ka pa…wala kangkarapatan nasingilin ang mga anak mo… ako tatlong anak ko puro propesyonal narin at lahatg sila nasa AMERIKA … asawa konglegal nag asawana rin don… kung na brain wash man ang mga anak ko wala akong magagawa…pero isa lang ang gusto ko… kung mamamatayako mailibing ako ng may dignidad… TANG NA WAGKANG UMASA… buntot mo hila mo diba…
Kung gagawa ka ng milgro siguruhin mong ,,, kaya ng loob mo… at kaya mong panindigan…kungkatabi lang kita malamang mabatukan pa kita…. pareho lang tayo ngkatayuan … pero hindi ako naging babaeo… kundi ka ba naman… basa ko lang sa takbo ng buhay mo e… ipinag yayabang mo ang mga anak mo …sa ibang tao … na hindi nila alam ang tunay na mundo mo… kaya iayos mo buhay mo… tutal ilang taon na lang naman… sa ginawamo … malamang ibalot ka na lang sa banig … pag inilibing ka… dahil ni hindi sisilipin ang bangkay mo ng mga anak mo….
He is still your father.
BETH you’re out of context..just look the title of the article “We Did Not Abandon Him” what are you saying again?
Not a helpful advice to give. I hope something similar comes your way and lets see if you can still speak the same advice. It is easier said than done. Nakakainis ang mga moralistang kagaya mo.
I admire you guys for being resilient and giving. I will care more for your mother who went through a lot of sacrifices just to pull you through the hard times. Although he is your biological father, there was no law that will say that your have the obligation to support him regardless. The parents responsibility is to support their children, not the other way around. But then we Filipinos are soft hearted that we help our parents once they get older and can’t support themselves. We look back and carry them along with us. I admire you for helping your father regardless of what he did to you and your mom. Help just enough but not to much, just for him not to be hungry. Just help out of compassion but not to the extent of you supporting his whole new family and more. Enough is enough. More power to you guys.
halata naman me hidden agenda itong tatay na to’. meron bang ganun na ipahiya mo mga anak mo para lng bigyan ka ng pera. kung ung tatay talaga ang nagpalaki sa mga anak nya at gumastos sa pag aaral eh bakit d nya kasama ang pamilya nya ngayon?
Tatay, isa po ako sa mga nag share ng story nyo sa fb kc naawa ako sa inyo, now I’m not going to judge you nor your daughters since I really don’t know the true story but I am just hoping and I’m going to pray for you na sana magka ayos na kayo ng mga anak mo at magbago na ang takbo ng buhay mo. Alam kong di lang ganito ka babaw ang estorya ng buhay nyo but it’s not too late to start over again. Obligasyon po ng isang magulang na bigyan ng magandang buhay ang kanyang mga anak but that doesn’t mean they will repay you it depends on the values that you instilled in them. I have an 85 years old father who’s still working to support both of them (my mother) and sometimes my brothers and sisters who have their families already, He never asked a cent from any of us but I support them (mother/father) with their medicines, foods and etc. because I love them. So you see Tatay kung mabuti ang iyong itinanim, mabuti rin ang iyong aanihin. But anyway what’s done is done so wala na kayong magawa kundi baguhin ang maling nagawa at magsimula uli. Sa mga anak naman, perhaps you can give food instead of cash through someone you can trust, budget it weekly or monthly pag naubos bago ang takdang oras its up to him to find ways.(if you’re doing it already that’s better)but supporting his extra families is a big NO to me. Pls do your best to protect your mother too from possible future attacks. God bless.
Nakakalungkot na may ama na katulad nia na gagawa ng paraan para mapahiya ang mga anak niya. Kung matino kang ama dapat makontento ka na sa binibigay sayo ng mga anak mo. sa tingin ko naman sapat naman sigro yong nabibigay sayo ayon sa pahayag. Kasi kung pagbabasehan mu ung pahayag ng anak at ung cnsbi ng ama at kung matino ka naman para intindihin ito eh sinu naman ang mahahabag sa tulad niya (mr. timonera). Dapat ang may obligasyon na sa kanya ay kung sinu ang kinakasama na niya. And kahit ganun nga ung pangyayari sa kanila sinusuportahan pa din nmn nila ang ama nila. Sa tingin ko lng nmn may sumusulsol or siya nga mismo tlaga ang may pakana pra makhingi ng sobra pa sa binibigay ng mga anak niya. At kung alam mung nagkamali ka nuon magagawa mu bang manghingi pa sa mga anak mu? wala ba siyang kahihiyan? kaya siguro kayang kaya niyang gawin ang mga yan kasi nga makapal tlga ang mukha at parang wala nmn siyang konsensya., base sa mga ginawa niya at gawain niya kya hindi na nkakapagtaka na kaya niya ulit gawin yan sa mga anak niya ng paulit ulit. kung matino siya dpat magpasalamat pa nga siya at nirerecognize pa rn siya ng mga anak niya eh.. tama na nga..
Madami sa atin hindi alam kung ano ba talaga ang pagiging MAGULANG. Nakakalungkot lang isipin na ang mga desisyon na ginagawa natin sa buhay bilang MAGULANG ay pinapapasan natin sa ating mga ANAK.
Naaalala ko palagi ang sinasabi ng mga MAGULANG ko:
“Mag-aral kayo ng mabuti mga anak dahil ito lang tanging bagay na kaya naming ipabaon sa inyo kapag kayo naman ang bubuo ng sarili niyong PAMILYA. Kapag natapos niyo ang pag-aaral niyo, huwag niyo kaming iispin, ang alalahanin ninyo ay kung paano niyo mahihigitan ang kalagayan ng buhay natin sa magiging PAMILYA niyo”
Dati hindi ko sila maintindihan, pero ngayun isa na din akong MAGULANG, alam ko na kung ano ang ibig nilang sabihin..
Bilang isang MAGULANG, OBLIGASYON mo na bigyan ng magandang buhay ang mga ANAK mo, kung hindi mo man kaya, huwag mo OBLIGAHIN ang ANAK na bigyan ka ng magandang buhay, dahil kayong mga MAGULANG ang nagdesisyon na magkaroon ng ANAK. Nagdesisyon kang bumuo ng PAMILYA para may bagay ka na pagbuhusan ng ORAS at PAGMAMAHAL. Kung ang ANAK mo ay ginagawa ang lahat para gumanda ang buhay ng MAGULANG, yun ay DESISYON din niya at hindi sa MAGULANG.
Sana maintindihan din ng mga kapwa natin ang mga ganitong bagay para naman magkaroon ng masmagandang bukas ang mga susunod na henerasyon sa atin.
this is a classic example of karma…
kc parang nagtanim ka ng mga halaman at hindi mo inaalagaan ito ay malalanta… at pag hindi maagapan ay tuloyang ng mamatay ganun din sa buhay ng tao.. kaya ang nangyari kay mang napolion hindi siya naging mabuting ama.. kaya nangyari sa kanya ng ganun… dapat bago siya gumawa ng ganun.. eh inisip muna nya. kong ano ang mga nagawa nya non sa kanyang pamilia…
i think they owe their father a support. just the father it doesn’t include the mistress or their kids. when i first see the post my initial reaction he was so lucky because his daughters are all privilege and successful. but i also felt bad for them because they will face a tons of bashing. people who know how to read are too smart to oversee the story. it’s easy for them to my such judgement. just ignore the criticisms like what you said your family, relatives and friends knows the story and that what is really important. just look after your mother and spare her for any not so good news. to your father sorry but shame on you you are too lucky that your wife raise your daughters so well.
LAHAT KAYO TAMA…. BOTTOM LINE IS THIS… WHO EVER HE IS. WHAT EVER HE HAS DONE TO YOU… HE WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR FATHER… GOD HAS WAYS TO GIVING IT BACK TO ANYBODY. KAHIT NAGING MABUTI KANG AMA,… ANG MGA ANAK NGAYON NEVER IN THEIR MIND HAS TREASURED WHAT A FATHER MEANS TO THEM. TATAY AKO…. I HAD BEEN TOO GOOD BUT THINGS ARE THE SAME. IM USELESS… AND THE MOTHERS ARE THE BEST…. ONLY TO REALIZE OUR IMPORTANCE WHEN WE ARE DEAD…. OUR DEATH IS THE FULFILLMENT OF OUR DREAMS,… AS FATHERS…
@JOY FLORENDO sa aking palagay, hindi ito ang tamang lugar para ilabas mo ang sama ng loob mo sa buhay..naliligaw ka dahil wala ka dapat dito..seek for help sa mga taong makakatulong sayo..you need some help man.
Something i can relate almost same dilemma with our father, naiintindihan ko mga anak ni mr.timonera, kapag wala pera father namin at di nya masustentuhan bisyo nya kung anu ano din sinasabi sa amin. Sinisiraan kmi sa ibang tao. Im sure di gusto ng mga anak ni mr.timonera na pabayaan sya instead binibigyan lang din ng leksyon kse kung papadala lagi sa pananakot e hinde hihinto at di matututo. Mahirap ung ganyang sitwasyon para sa anak pero masakit din kse yung palagi ka sinasaktan para lang sa sariling interest. Dont judge them, hinde ninyo lang alam how it feels, kapag may taong ganyan sa pamilya feeling mo parang napakamiserable ng buhay mo.
Ang kasalanan ng iyong ama sa kanya lang yon.
EZIKIEL
18:20 Ang kaluluwa na nagkakasala, mamamatay: ang anak ay hindi magdadanas ng kasamaan ng ama, o magdadanas man ang ama ng kasamaan ng anak; ang katuwiran ng matuwid ay sasa kaniya, at ang kasamaan ng masama ay sasa kaniya.
Kailanagan mo syang PATAWARIN kung ibig mong maligtas din..
MATEO
6:14 Sapagka’t kung ipatawad ninyo sa mga tao ang kanilang mga kasalanan, ay patatawarin naman kayo ng inyong Ama sa kalangitan.
6:15 Datapuwa’t kung hindi ninyo ipatawad sa mga tao ang kanilang mga kasalanan, ay hindi rin naman kayo patatawarin ng inyong Ama ng inyong mga kasalanan.
Di ka dapat gumanti Dios ang bahala sa kanyang ginawa…
ROMA
12:19 Huwag kayong mangaghigantihan, mga iniibig, kundi bigyan ninyong daan ang galit ng Dios: sapagka’t nasusulat, Akin ang paghihiganti; ako ang gaganti, sabi ng Panginoon.
12:21 Huwag kang padaig sa masama, kundi bagkus daigin mo ng mabuti ang masama.
may mga magulang talaga n ganiyan,nkakarelate ako kay doktora…father ko rin ganiyan din mag isip,di bale ng mapahiya kaming mga anak niya sa maraming tao,mapakita niya lang sa iba na naaapi siya…sinasabi din niya na pinapabayaan namin siya..magkasundo kayo kapag binigyan mo siya ng pera pero pag wala ka ng maibigay masamang anak ka na….nagpapasalamat n lang kami dahil kilala na ng mga kapitbahay namin ugali niya kaya kahit anong paninira at kuwento niya tungkol sa aming magkakapatid walang naniniwala sa kaniya…alam ng mga tao sa paligid namin kung paano kami pinalaki…KAYA NAKAKAINIS YUNG MGA TAONG MAPANGHUSGA,DI LAHAT NG NAGPAPAAWA AY TALAGANG NAKAKAAWA,ALAMIN NIYO MUNA ANG TUNAY NA KUWENTO,kung makapagsabi pa yung iba diyan na MAGULANG MO PA RIN SILA,BAKA KUNG KAYO ANG NASA LUGAR NAMIN EH MAS MALALA PA ANG GAWIN NINYO….
In that case, I would rather be kind still to my father because without him im not belong in this world…
@ANA JANE sounds like you’re guilty.
kelan daw libing?
bakit dmo bigyan pang negosyo para dina sa inyo umaasa, pag pera tlga binigay mauubos tlga
@JAN LEI isa ka ba sa mga anak sa labas ni Mr. Timonera? tanong lang.
Kawawa nman c janet d2, hehehe, janet nasa likod mo ko suportahan taka, hehehe.. oy mga buang kau lahat, kala nyo kung cno kayong mga santo mkapag comment, pakshet kayong lahat, hehehehe, o janet ayan pakners n tayo, hehehe!
Simple lang nman yung sagot sa problemang to. My situation is quite parallel to the ordeal of the duaghters of Mr. Timonera.
Kung talagang mahal mo ang mga anak mo and hindi mo sila pahihiyain ng ganito, a true father will never do that and if you have been a true father to them, they will never abandon you in the first place in fact sila pa ang magpupumilit na tanggapin mo yung offers nila kasi nga mahal ka nila. Pasalamat ka lang Mr. Timonera at pinatawad ka pa nga ng mga anak mo despite what you did. Forgiveness is not always equated to financial support. Masakit lang kasi nga after what you did to them all these times you still have this “courage” to do this to them. Di pa ba sapat ang ginawa mo before? We can all see that hindi ka nga naging totoo sa position mo bilang ama. I am not judging, kasi nga ginawa mo naman pala talaga.
hindi talaga maiwasan ang mga taong mapanghusga kahit hindi pa nla alam ang totong storya….
As a parent, it is our responsibility to raise our child/children period. Never wait for whatever from them. And yes, i agree in your comments, ” Don’t invest too much on them and expect something in return” as in asking for the return of your investment in raising them. Leave some for u & ur partner to spend on your twilight years, para may magamit and again….don’t expect something from them. Let us stop giving comments and judging either the father or his children. Let us REST on giving too much on this. Thank you po sa inyong lahat. God bless everyone.
Hi
I understand the sentiments of Dr. Mic Ng. As we have been experiencing this kind of dilemma. My father is exactly the same as your father. Minsan iniisip namin bitawan na namin sya. Sabe nila pag mabigat subukan mo muna bitawan para makaangat ka. Para sa taas may mgagawa ka na para maiangat sya. Pero kahit sobrang pahirap pa ang ginawa nya, hindi kaya. Hindi kayang iwan e. Pagkakamali nya yun. Thats why we are family. We need to look each others back kapag may pagkakamali tayong ginawa. Your mom and my mom are very lucky. Kasi andito tayo para alagaan sila. You have to deal with your dad. Kasi fair si God. He will not give you all these trials kung hind mo kakayanin. Kaya ka nya ginawang doctor para matulungan mo si Father. Kaya nya ko ginawang engineer para maalalayan ko si Father. Kahit ano pang gawin nila. Minsan naiisip ko pano kung isa sameng magkakapatid ang mapariwara? Baka mas mahirap kasi puro kami babae.. Baka plan talaga ni God yan.. And dun mattest kung gano kalakas yung faith mo sa kanya na magiging happy family din kayo. Just pray.
I’m Daisy Chua. A Civil Engineer. We are four girls too. 1 in New Zealand, 1 in Dubai and me working in Qatar. The other one is still in college. My mom is a college professor. We are lucky that we are standing on our grounds right now. Not because we are good at it. Because we handle our family matters and issues together.. even if it hurts. Mdami namang blessing eh! 🙂 So okay lang kahit mahirap!
You have a very kind heart. I hope people learn from your goodness. Sometimes people can not differentiate needs and want. I think the Timonera kids have provided their father what he needed in spite of his failures as a father. Unfortunately, they are not able to provide what their father wanted. Sometimes, you to make a bridge to cross the river, flatten a hill to make way for a road and break rocks to make byways. Sad to say human brain is enclosed by skull. Just hoping good things will come out from your post. Surely it will make a difference.
It is so easy to be righteous when you are intelligent… but having the right heart to justify your righteousness will give you a second thought of a conviction you have made… at the end of the day… our essence is not measured by what we have been through but into what we have become… our purpose is not how to count other human’s errors or shortcomings who have affected us but rather how we make other improve their lives… it is just sometimes… we respond to human needs the wrong way too… we are too focus on what our five senses can only understand….while we should rather understand the emptiness within the person… and respond to it instead… because not all who ask material things really needs what they utter… they might mean attention, security, belongingness, forgiveness, understanding… because we are sons and daughters who are being addressed by our parent .. and not a client nor a patient who..is reciprocating our professional services… and I hope being all in the medical field… you will know exactly and understand him…and so as the kind of treatment he deserves… I am not here to convict… judge…neither advice…. but rather wish you both… to have the peace of mind..calmness of the heart…. that all us deserve to experience after our realizations about life… 🙂 andami kong natutunan.. sa pagbasa lang ng mga comments… have a blessed sunday po…
Dear Janet,
I have one younger brother and one younger sister. My father left us for another women when i was 10. But before that let me share the memories i have while my father was still with us as a family. My Father is an Engineer and a very good one so he and my mother decided to start a company and as time flies the company was starting to pick up and business was good and so was our lives seems to go towards for the better and my mother devoted all the time to the company because she wants us to live a good life and study well known institutions overseas. Then my father started going off to places and comes back after every few days leaving my mother to do all the work in the office by herself and her staffs and she was the one doing all the negotiations with potential clients. Not before long when my mother noticed that the company profit is not the same as the balance in the bank. She confronted my father and found out he had several other mistresses. My father managed to persuade my mother into forgiving him and so she did but he still does it and eventually caused my mother do make the decision to close the company for it was hard to maintain with my fathers lack of cooperation and also the abuse to the company profit. Thinking it would stop there but it dint. He borrowed money from people and banks and made many empty promises. My father suddenly disappeared without a word and all the loans he made from banks and people he just left it like that leaving my mothers name as the guarantor without the knowledge of my mother regarding any of it.
My mother is a strong, loving and kind hearted person. She dint complain or even try to debate as to why she has to pay when she does not know anything about it. Instead she spent years trying to pay off the dept of my father and even trying to get us so that we would be able to finish school. And the amount my father borrowed was not small. we ended up selling our house and my mom had to take 2 jobs because her education level was only up to high school and after what my father did cause my mother reputation to be stained and people think of her as a swindler and a liar but my mother never broke her silence. She has health complications but she worked day in and day out making sure we always have food to eat when she was too sick to even walk properly.
The things you wrote makes it seems like its so easy to forgive and forget. I have to apologize but i really can not agree with you. DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE FEELING FOR US AS HER CHILDREN NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING?!? Do even know how much it hurts for me and my siblings to the depth of our souls to see our mother going through so much and we cant even help anything that would ease her pain. I watched her cry so many times late at nigh when she thinks we were all asleep and every morning she would give us such a sweet smile as if the world was okay when we all know its not. Everytime when we are at our small room apartment my sister would just grab onto my mothers shirt and started crying…. i was 10 at that time my brother was 9 and my sister was 6 and as young as she was she understood my mothers hardship. It was so frustrating that all we could do at that time was cry and cry and cry in my mothers place. My and my brother studied hard and so did my sister when she started going to school because its what we can do to make our mother proud. At that time my brother became very temperamental and my sister has this cold attitude towards other people which is why she cant make friends easily in school.
Here’s something dying to let you know Janet. While my mother went through all those though times My father got a new stable job and the salary was above average. Did he came back to help pay his dept and apologies to my mother and get our lives back to normal? NO HE DIN’T NOT EVEN A CENT WAS GIVEN ! People told my mother that his living a good life and even better he travels to so many places like JAPAN and Perth Australia even Philippines with all the pretty young girlfriend he has that time. SO I ask you how can a Husband even more a father to 3 children can go on all those trips filled with fun times and happy moments with big smile and laughter knowing he has a family that is suffering due to the caused of his actions. Tell me how can he feel so guiltless after what he did and you expect us to forgive him like that?
Fast forward to this day. I am working as a civil engineer, my brother a chemical engineer and my sister became a doctor on child specialist. What we became now is not because of my father and yes we existed because of him but the one who carried us to full term and brought us to this world was my mother not only that she was also the one who brought us to this point now. To me and my siblings our mother is a HERO and now we give her the life she should live in from the start to be treated like a Queen. My sister ensures she has everything she needs and maids who does anything she wants. Even with now as working adults we still stay together in now much bigger house because we cant stand the idea of being far from our mother. She was always there for us and no we will always be there for her.
I surely can say i definitely understand what Dr. Mic Ng feels. To have a father who just holds the title as a Father but does nothing what a father should do. And as for me i still havent forgiven my so called father but i might so one day and even if i did forgive him i will never forget what he did to us. Forgiving is one thing but forgetting is another because my past makes me what i am now and I WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT MAKES ME WHAT I AM NOW
Have a pleasant day.
Ang anak ay hindi punla para singilin mo ng utang na loob para bigyan ka ng maginhawang buhay ngunit na sa ANAK naman ang desisyon kung gagawin niya ito. Ang mahirap sa ibang magulang aanak para sabihin “Anak ikaw ang mag aahon sa aming kahirapan” AMA at INA responsibilidad mo ang mga anak mo pero hindi naman mandatory na tulungan ka ng mga anak mo bagos ANAK anot ano parin mag tulungan kayong mag papamilya lalonat ang mga iyong magulang.
Yan kasi naniniwala agad sa mga napo-post sa FB. For me as a parent, hindi obligasyon ng anak ang mga magulang, magulang ang may obligasyon sa anak, if gusto tumulong ng anak it’s their choice pero hindi yun obligado.
Janet, YOU ARE A FUCKING DUMBASS!!!
He simply reap what he sow. Don’t expect to harvest tons and tons when you only sow a grain.
i think the statement na “dad is still a dad, na kahit na anung mangyari tatay mo parin yan” is overused and overrated…. oo sakanya ka nangaling… oo wala ka kung hindi dahil sa kanya… pero kasi hindi naman natin choice yun diba???? yes we are given to him….. and what happens after is God’s plan pero naiintindihan ko yung mga anak niya….. thankful naman sila sa mga nagawa niya for them and i think the fact that they gave him another chance after nia iwan yung family niya before is enough….. tama naman din yung bagay na hindi dapat umasa yung mga magulang sa anak pag matanda na sila…. pero hindi tama na ispoon feed ng anak lahat lahat….. in their case kasi…. iniwan sila eh…. nangaliwa ng ilang beses yung tatay tapos aasa ka sa mga anak mo?? tapos ngayon may karelasyon ka na kalahati pa ng edad mo na pede mo nang i consider na anak??? where is the shame??? enough na i think for him yung support na pera at patirahan sa kanya….. wala na syang karapatan na humingi pa ng sobra sobra pa sa pinaggagawa niya sa family niang yun…. i think enough cash for food,,,, enough cash for needed commodities,,, and enough cash for housing are just what he deserved…. maybe more (depende kung ganu kagenerous yung family niya) but not less…… yes family is still family pero kung hindi siya magbabago and tingin niya naman eh gatasan ng pera lang ang mga pinalake niya….. eh nakakasawa naman talaga na magprovide sa kanya kahit pa thankful ka na kung hindi dahil sa kanya wala ka sa mundong ito…
O, dun sa mga nagda drama jan ng “tatay pa rin nila yan ek ek” Ang totoong tatay eh HINDI PINAHIHIYA ang mga anak nya ng dahil lang sa pera. Sabi na nga dun sa sulat, binibigyan naman yung tatay ng tulong. Pero gusto pa nung tatay ng dagdag para dun sa kabit nya at anak sa labas. Parang sampal naman sa mukha ng nanay nung mga babae kung papayag sila dun?
TARONG MOG BASA BI! NAKAKAINIS COMMENT AGAD DI NAGBABASA MGA BASHERS WALANG MAGAWA SA BUHAY
The father deserves it! Its easy to become a man but it is hard to be father. Cheers to the daugthers and God Speed!
akala ni mr napoleon eh makakahatak sya ng supporters by sympathy matalino na mga tao ngayun … kung naging babaero sya nung araw dapat di nya iiwanan pamilya nya kumbaga por kilo ng baboy hindi isang buong baboy iuuwi nya , nagpasasa sya nung nagsasaudi sya mismanage bisyo nya dapat lang sa kanya yan. dapat sa kanya eh aso inalagaan nya at pinalaki baka sakali di sya kagatin . pero pag ginutom nya baka iwan din sya
Sa bawat pagkakataon ay dalawa ang pwedeng mangyari;
Case 1: Hindi Pinabayaang Anak at Nagtagumpay sa Buhay (positive at positive)
This is the “ideal” case at ito ang gusto nating lahat.
Case 2. Hindi Pinabayaang Anak pero Hndi Nagtagumpay sa Buhay (positive at negative)
Meron bang dapat sisihin? Dito natin madalas madinig yung salita ng magulang “Saan
kami nagkamali ng pagpapalaki sa iyo”
Case 1. Pinabayaang Anak pero Nagtagumpay sa Buhay (negative at positive)
Ito ang case ng istorya ng Timonera family.
Case 2. Pinabayaang Anak at Hindi Nagtagumpay sa Buhay (negative at negative)
Worst case.
Kung nagtagumapy man tayo ngayon, sana pasalamatan natin ang nakaraang maganda at hindi magandang pangyayari sapagkat ito ang nakatulong sa ating tagumpay.
Kung hindi naman tayo nagtagumpay, sana wag nating sisihin ang nakaraang maganda at hindi magandang pangyayari sapagkat hindi ito ang dahilan ng ating kabiguan.
Kung meron mang dapat sisihin…..SINO at BAKIT…?
IF I isa cguro aq sa pamilya niya cguro stop ko na din ung pag bibigay kung sa IBABAE LANG NIYA MAPUPUNTA GAWA KA NG GAWA NG KASALANAN TPS NGAUN MAMAHIYA KA NG ANAK AT ASAWA? EE PANG APAT MO NA PALAYA YAN…. basahin DIN KASI MGA BOSS…. kung sana yung pinapadala nung mga anak niya is merong napupuntahang maganda adi sana hindi siya nag kakaganian kaso saan napupunta ung pera? sa babae niya na ndi naman obligation ng apat na anak niya.
Hoping all of you knows the greater sin than the TEN COMMANDMENTS!
_the sin of omission!
May mas malalim pa sigurong dahilan ang mga mag kakapatid,, you cant blame them..kung ganun din lang ang ugali ng ama, na pa ulit ulit pa nyang ginawa, no choice,,, iiwan ko tlaga sya… hindi rin natin masisi ang mga magkakapatid,, hwag natin silang husgaan, kung kayo ang nasa sitwasyon nila ano kaya masasabi nyo? Madali lang sabihin na patawarin sya, ama parin sya pero hindi tayo yung nasa sitwayson eh,,, kung mabuting ama sya baka sa amerika pa sya pinatira.. hindi sya naging mabuting ama sa mga magkakapatid….” kung magtatanim ka ng mabuti sa kapawa, aani ka ng mas higit pa” opinion lang…
Kaya naman pala… I won’t blame you for feeling and acting that way! TAMA LANG yan! One rule about issues is its better to know both sides before making any stand! 🙂 Kaya magulo ang mundo kasi maraming sira ulo!
eto lang nman ang masasabi ko , hindi ka makakapagtapos ng pagaaral at hindi ka mapagaaral ng husband mo kung hindi dahil sa ama at ina mo , kaya kahit anong sama ng ama oh ina mo magpasalamat ka dahil nakilala mo husband mo na nakapagpatapos sa pagaaral mo , hindi ako nanghuhusga nagsasabi lang ako ng katotohanan.
Only ignorance brings chaos.
INTINDIHIN NYU N LANG SARILI NYONG PROBLEMA! KESA NAKIKI USYUSO KAYO SA PROBLEMA NG IBA!
The prodigal Father!! Hehe If he’s been a good father to his children none of these things will come up now. Kung magiging humble sana siya at humingi ng sorry sa asawa’t anak niya sa tingin ko patatawarin pa din siya at siguro hindi na siya patambay tambay sa kalye ngayon kaso masyado siyang mapride at ayaw aminin ang pagkukulang sa familya niya kaya until now paawa affect ang peg sa mga tao pag nasa kalye para kaawaan siya at kagalitan naman ung other side which is yung totoong naaapi becoz of his fault. Mahal ka n mga anak mo kaya nga nanahimik sila ng ilang mos bago sila nagsalita dahil pag nagkwento na sila, ikaw ang lalabas na my sala. Now we know whats behind this story.
We really like to bring up old stuff sometimes because that can cause the biggest sting. But bringing up past pain is never helpful to us…
“Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Honor your father and mother (which is the first commandment with a promise), that it may be well with you, and that you may live long on the earth (Ephesians 6:1-3).”
Aba`y matinde hinde kailangan mang blackmail para humingi ng pera pero kung kailann mo humingi at Humingi ka rin ng tawad
I AM SO EFFING TIRED OF READING COMMENTS REGARDING “FORGIVENESS” WHAT THE F??? The old man is asking money, using social media as his tool to humiliate his children, for him to be able to support his 25-year-old woman. If forgiveness is the real issue here, THEN IN THE FIRST PLACE THIS WHOLE THING WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE!!!!! the issue is MONEEEEEY! PERA! DATUNG! MOOLAH!! SALAPI!!!! mga utak gung-gong kayong mga nag cocomment at nagsasabing magpatawad at huwag pabayaan ang ama. PUTONGINAMOY NAMAN KAYO, SO ANO GUSTO NIYONG GAWIN NILA, PAGKATAPOS PATAWARIN, BIGYAN LANG NG BIGYAN NG PERA PANG TUSTOS SA KABIT NIYA??? Hirap sa inyong puro comment ng “forgiveness” di pa nakaranas ng naranasan ng mga anaka niya, at sa mga nagsasabing “i was a child of a womanizer but i forgave him and we’re okay”, BULLSHIT! Your dads/parents never asked money from you to support his wife!!! what makes this story worse, HE HAS ANOTHER FAMILY. FAMILY!!! HINDI LANG KABIT, FAMILY MEANING MAY ANAK!!!! isipin niyo nga, pag binigyan niyo ng pera ang taong ito, edi parang hindi lang pamilya mo ang susuportahan mo kundi ang pamilya niya sa labas!!! ISIP ISIP DIN WAG PURO UTAK GUNG-GONG mga hinayupak kayong may pa-‘FORGIVENESS IS THE WAY”, ‘FORGIVENESS IS THE PATH TO GOD” PA QUOTE-QUOTE PA NG BIBLE VERSES EH WALA NAMAN SA POSISYON NG MGA ANAK NI MR. TIMONERA!!! Kayong mga members ng ‘FORGIVENESS SOCIETY”, you people make me SICK!! Curse me, spite me, hell, quote me verses from the Bible you asses, but i wish what happened to Mr. Timonera’s daughters happen to you, nang maranasan niyo rin yung naranasan nila at hindi puro “FORGIVENESS IS THE PATH TO HOLINESS” ang theme ng grupo niyo!!!
Dude!!! Thumbs up! Waaay Thumbs up
I will agree that the father had tremendously hurt the children making them unforgiving because of what he did,… It is an eternal condemnation of the father. it is life’s unforgivable mistake. No one can justify it. He should be condemned. But wait… this things that happened,, the enormous pain inflicted to his children have made the children strong… very mentally strong, they became successful in their field because their father have abandoned them. If their father didn’t abandoned them the lives of the children may have ended differently. Second, I don’t argue if the children would do the same to their father, like payback time… abandon him… but at least thank him, if he had not abandoned them, they have not reached the peak of their lives. God have blessed the children, while God despised the father. Is it not enough? Children are not God who would say “Vengeance is mine” they are not heartless mortals as well !!
@JANET – Yes, he is their dad, and without him, they might not be in this world.
However, As what Mr @Nixon said, being a father takes more than just being a semen contributor.
A good father needs to be responsible, respectful, loving and a role model to his children.
So, ask yourself this, has Mr. Napoleon Timonera been a good father to his children?
The answer is a big NO!
Despite what Mr. Napoleon Timonera did to his children, they still accepted him and may have already forgiven him.
I say this because despite what Mr. Timonera did to his children and family, they have financially supported him and offered him a place to stay.
But what did Mr. Timonera do after being accepted, financially supported and offered a place to stay?
He threatened the life of their loving mother just to squeeze more money from his children resulting in their mother having a stroke.
What else did he do? He left Oriental Mindoro and went to his mistress.
Was he repentant? He didn’t even apologize for causing the mother of his children to have a stroke.
To top it all off, he has aired all their dirty laundry in the media.
Why did he do this? Just for the sake of money!!!
What is the money for? To provide for his mistress?!
If you were one of Mr. Timonera’s children, what would you do?
Would you be willing to continue to give financial support to your father knowing that you will also in a way be supporting your father’s mistress?
It would be like you are also supporting what he is doing wrong.
Kung babalik si Mr. Timonera sa kanyang totoong pamilya, siguro naman they will eventually forgive him.
The big question, did he even asked for their forgiveness and has ever been repentant…
Huwag naman sana tayong magpaka plastic…
FILIPINO always think of pinoys working/living abroad is living with a good life. But to the reality, their lives are more difficult. They need to work hard even day and night so they can send enough money/packages to their respective families in the P.I.
Guys, think of it. Our families need to be LOVED, understand, CARED, and to be treated to what is right and just no matter who and what they are.
Remember: “MONEY is the root of all EVIL”.
i cudn’t help but comment….i just can’t stand the fact how we netizens are too quick to judge…only God knows what’s the real score with this people and i don’t think their situation is something we could feast of..we’re fortunate to b able to read their story and have something to ponder on..let’s learn from it but let’s not judge any of them…let God do it His way..gamitin naman natin ang social media in a more mature and responsible way…
We are not in the position to judge the kids. Sometimes, even if you want to find in your heart to forgive someone, especially your dad, you just can’t. It seems that their father didn’t regret what he did to them and even had the gut to drag the names of his daughter to social media and ruin their private lives thru this. This for one should make us all readers think what kind of father he is.
WINSTON YOUR MIND OF THINKING IS LIKE SH*T PLEASE READ IT & READ IT AGAIN THE TRUE STORY OF WHAT THE REPLY’S OF HIS DAUGHTER TO HIS FATHER. YOUR DEALING YOURSELF OF WHAT YOU ARE RIGHT NOW!
Agree ako mostly sa comments ng madami. I am a womanizer till now. age 71. Many childrens outside marriage. I was a workaholic all my life. I studied in UK, a retired (pensioner) trained nurse in London. I do not need money from any of my children. I never had a penny (and I mean not a single penny) from anyone of them throughout my life. Two of my children are professionals in UK. My grandchildren I supported from day one are professionals, now abroad as well. Unfortunately, MR Napoleon Timonera is not a pensioner (no pension in the middle east) I agree Mr Timonera was bloody minded horny womanizer maybe like myself in that aspect, but I do not smoke, gamble, used drugs nor any vices, except womanizing. I “denounced/disowned” my four children and their children till I die because they disrespected me due to my womanizing. (I still share some of my pensions with my first and second wife) I never neglected my ex-wives. But regardless,,,,,, and I mean regardless of reasons of Mr Timonera`s now “so called professional” children,,, please I say again,,, REGARDLESS,,,, he is still your father who needs your help despite of the past,,,,, magpakita naman kayo ng kaunting “PUTANG NA LOOB”. Ok hindi nga “daw” kayo a form of investment sabi ng madaming intelligent (daw) na comment, and many other sad silly comments. Pero hindi kayo mabubuo kung hindi sa tatay ninyo. Kahit paano PINALAMON (I say again PINALAMON) KAYO ni Timonera. Ako iba ang prinsipyo ko,,,, may tumulong sa akin nuong bata ako ng 50 pesos, para meron kaming pangkain, until he died many years ago, tumulong ako hanggang sa pagpapalibing. That was only 50 pesos !!!!!!!!! Because I know and understand the word “GRATITUDE”. UTANG NA LOOB. !!!!!! 90 % NG PILIPINO AY MGA WALANG UTANG NA LOOB. All of us are professionals now abroad USA and UK,,,, no financial help of my parents, we were very poor,,, but we were all scholars. Masyado kaming mapagpahalaga sa salitang disiplina at “Putang Na Loob” . Hahahahahahahahhaah (Insulto yan) Disiplinado kami ng aming magulang. and we shall all die well disciplined. To cut story short,,,,,, you can never never repay back your parents anytime in your life until they die regardless of your reasons. KASI, KUNG WALA SIYA WALA DIN KAYO SA PUTANGINANG MUNDONG ETO ! DO YOU REALIZE THAT, ALL YOU (PROFESSIONAL) CHILDREN OF TIMONERA ! Kabizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ?////////!!!!!!!. Leche/punyeta kayo.
brad mamatay ka na.
Ephesians 6:4 – And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
Mang PJ, do first your duty as a “FATHER” to your children because you brought them to this world. Do you even understand the word love? Kung ikaw di mo maintindihan yung word na L-O-V-E with only four letters on it wag mo kwestyunin ang GRATITUDE ng iba kung ang alam mo lang ay LUST.
Ang mga amang kagaya mo ay walang karapatan sa GRATITUDE. Alin ang dapat ipagpasalamat? Ang sama ng loob na idinulot nyo sa mga anak nyo?
Galit ka???? Your concept of putang na loob is enslaving. Yong analogy mo na pagtulog mo sa taong nagbigay sa iyo ng Php50 ay di kahalintulad ng pinagdaanan ng mga magkakapatid para sabihin mo yan, engot na matanda, leche, punyeta . . . at tama si Juan, mamatay ka na brad.
PJ, bago ka magsalita na sinasabi mong Putang na Loob, eh bakit ka nasa UK at ang mga anak mo nasa UK. Nasaan ang Utang na loob mo sa Inang bayan, dito sila magtrabaho at tulunngan ang mga kababayan natin na nagangailangan ng mga serbisyo medical. Palibhasa nag aral ka sa UK , mayaman ka siguro? or nagyayabang lang talaga.
Both you and Mr Timonera have twisted and selfish mind. You have chosen to be a womaniser. It was your choice and you alone alone. Why until 71? Jack not able to stand anymore? From here it shows that lahat na bagay ay may hangangan. I do not believe na “kung wala siya wala din kayo” (don’t want to buy your irresponsible lengua). Bakit ginusto ba ng mga bata na isilang sila. It was you own making. Full stop. What pinalamon you are talking about? Is that the only level of self respect you can have yourself? Good enough you still provided support to your first and second wife. Dahil sa utang na loob? If you read the background of Mr Timonera, he was supported all the way in spite of his failures as a father. Ang problema – ang taong ito ay abusado. What he wanted is a sum that even his kids cannot earn. Now you brag that you are a disciplined man. What planet did you come from? A womaniser – a disciplined man. You are laughable. I think you need a psychologist if not a psychiatrist after reading this. Man you need help. What you are doing now (bragging, setting a worthless basis of what discipline is or what utang na loob is) are just a facade of man in serious psychological help.
The first time I saw in fb iyong picture ng tatay na may malaking placard, na nanghihingi sa mga anak, I suspected all along na may iba sia na motibo lalo na at may mga contact numbers nman sia ng kanyang mga anak. Takado lang ako, bakit kailangan pa nyang ibroadcast, idaan sa media at sa madlang pipol – ang hinala ko that time ay para ipahiya ang mga anak sa kanilang pagiging “pabaya.” Ipinagkibit balikat ko na lang saying, well, i wish i were wrong.
What a shamless man!!! if I am one f his children,i would rather use all my money helping my mother to get well rather than spending even a single penny on him. He doesn’t deserve to be called a father.And whoever believes in this napoeon story’s is just as worthless as he is.I feel sorry for you too Janet—it seems that you are still floating in “cloud nine”that what you have written looks hilarious and full of nonsense.
I dont have a situation like his children had with him,but i feel the sympathy for his children not to him.i just look back the story what the child say,if i am in the situation i dont want to be involve or even have a contact with him.shame on him have a guts to blackmailing his children after all what he did to them, and their mother.his children still supporting him and trying to make his life better.instead he want more and more bcoz of his own bad intentions.His old instead of changing and let his children forgive him and forget what he did to them.but until now hes still make his children life miserable.C God na bahala sau magparusa.
His actions clearly show that he has no remorse for what he has done to them in the past.. Wala siyang karapatan maghingi ng kahit ano sa mga anak niya dahil hindi siya naging mabuting ama.. at ang panunumbat ang panghihiya nya sa mga anak niya ay patunay na hindi pa rin sya nagbabago.. masamang ama pa rin sya sa kanyang mga anak hanggang ngayon.
I pity his children. I pray that they find it in their heart to forgive him, not for his sake but for their own..
sa derechong salita, hindi nawalan ng respeto ang mga anak sa tatay nila, natural lang un nahulog ang tatay nila sa kasalanan at yan ang resulta. Bilib nga ko sa magkakapatid na ito dumanas talaga sila ng matinding pagsubok sa knilang pamilya pero hindi sila bumigay, marami dyan kasalanan ng magulang nadadamay pati anak, kaya sira ang pamilya. Pero sa magkakapatid na ito positive pa rin sila at hindi nman sila pinabayaan ng Dios pinagpala sila, dahil alam q sigurado noon pa lang narealize nila na kung magkakapamilya cila wag nang danasin ang hirap na dinanas nila, hindi biro un mga kapatid. Sa part ngaun ng tatay aq man ang anak maaawawa aq tatay q un eh dugo ng aking dugo laman ng akin laman, maaawa aq dahil biktima siya ng gawa ng masama walang iba kundi gawa ng demonyo nakalagay sa bible yan ang demonyo naparito para magsira at magwasak (juan 10:10). Pero panahon na para matuldukan yan mahal nila ang tatay nila kaya ayaw nila mapahamak, at hindi konsintidor mga anak nila na itotolerate nila ung mali ng tatay nila. binibigyan nila ng time ang tatay nila na marealize ang pagkakamali at magsisi sa Dios, inaantay nila un, matiyaga nilang inaantay ganun nila kamahal ng tatay nila umaaasa silang magbago at iderecho ang buhay, iaayos ang maling mga nagawa dahil hanggat may buhay may pag asang magbago. Pero sa nangyaring post na yan expected na yan na talagang ganyan ang mangyayari, igagapang nya talaga ang second family nya para mabuhay lalo na kung may anak na maliliit pa kaya kulang ang sustento, may sustento kaya lang kulang. kaya wala siyang nakikita kahit kahihiyan na ng buong pamilya na ibrodcast yan wala na siyang pakialam. Imagine sa isang pagkakamali na adultery buong pamilya masisira, kaya kung nsa ganyan kang sitwasyon kapatid, maraming ganyan ang nsa ganyang sitwasyon at maraming nagtatangka pa, wag mo na ituloy kapatid mapapahamak ka lng aral ito sa atin lalo na sa mga tatay isipin nio munang maigi bago nio ituloy yan dahil cgurado nasa huli ang pagsisi. Sa mga magkakapatid na yan patuloy niong ipanalangin ang tatay nio wag kaung magtanim ng sama ng loob, masakit ciempre tatay nio un. habang tinatype q to naiiyak aq matagal na rin nio siyang inantay na magbago pero hindi kayo naggive up wag ninyong sarhan ang pintuan nio para sa tatay nio, alam q pinipilit nya na magbago kaya lng andun talaga na may kahinaan sya at hindi instant pra makabangon uli, alipin siya ng kasalanan tatay nio siya kailangan niya kau hindi pa huli ang lahat hanggat may buhay may pagasang magbago.
Me too… I am also a father. I am a good provider yet I erred a lot dealing with mistresses (with a pretty damn long story behind it in which I am still the antagonist.) and I am ashamed of it. If ever my offspring would abandon me in a later future I would never involve my personal tragedy in media attention nor I would demand anything. Shame on you Mr. Napole Tims, you proved that you really are the worst father ever.
sa derechong salita, hindi nawalan ng respeto ang mga anak sa tatay nila, natural lang un nahulog ang tatay nila sa kasalanan at yan ang resulta. Bilib nga ko sa magkakapatid na ito dumanas talaga sila ng matinding pagsubok sa knilang pamilya pero hindi sila bumigay, marami dyan kasalanan ng magulang nadadamay pati anak, kaya sira ang pamilya. Pero sa magkakapatid na ito positive pa rin sila at hindi nman sila pinabayaan ng Dios pinagpala sila, dahil alam q sigurado noon pa lang narealize nila na kung magkakapamilya cila wag nang danasin ang hirap na dinanas nila, hindi biro un mga kapatid. Sa part ngaun ng tatay aq man ang anak maaawawa aq tatay q un eh dugo ng aking dugo laman ng akin laman, maaawa aq dahil biktima siya ng gawa ng masama walang iba kundi gawa ng demonyo nakalagay sa bible yan ang demonyo naparito para magsira at magwasak (juan 10:10). Pero panahon na para matuldukan yan mahal nila ang tatay nila kaya ayaw nila mapahamak, at hindi konsintidor mga anak nila na itotolerate nila ung mali ng tatay nila. binibigyan nila ng time ang tatay nila na marealize ang pagkakamali at magsisi sa Dios, inaantay nila un, matiyaga nilang inaantay ganun nila kamahal ng tatay nila umaaasa silang magbago at iderecho ang buhay, iaayos ang maling mga nagawa dahil hanggat may buhay may pag asang magbago. Pero sa nangyaring post na yan expected na yan na talagang ganyan ang mangyayari, igagapang nya talaga ang second family nya para mabuhay lalo na kung may anak na maliliit pa kaya kulang ang sustento, may sustento kaya lang kulang. kaya wala siyang nakikita kahit kahihiyan na ng buong pamilya na ibrodcast yan wala na siyang pakialam. Imagine sa isang pagkakamali na adultery buong pamilya masisira, kaya kung nsa ganyan kang sitwasyon kapatid, maraming ganyan ang nsa ganyang sitwasyon at maraming nagtatangka pa, wag mo na ituloy kapatid mapapahamak ka lng aral ito sa atin lalo na sa mga tatay isipin nio munang maigi bago nio ituloy yan dahil cgurado nasa huli ang pagsisi. Sa mga magkakapatid na yan patuloy niong ipanalangin ang tatay nio wag kaung magtanim ng sama ng loob, masakit ciempre tatay nio un. habang tinatype q to naiiyak aq matagal na rin nio siyang inantay na magbago pero hindi kayo naggive up wag ninyong sarhan ang pintuan nio para sa tatay nio, alam q pinipilit nya na magbago kaya lng andun talaga na may kahinaan sya at hindi instant pra makabangon uli, alipin siya ng kasalanan tatay nio siya kailangan niya kau hindi pa huli ang lahat hanggat may buhay may pagasang magbago.
If I may remember we only live once hope that regardless of the issues presented here just think of JESUS and what do you think that we need to do to make everybody be better, content, happy and free of guilt as what he/she would do in this situation. P.S. when somebody is already gone the only thing you can say is I miss him/her and would give anything just to be given a chance to with them again……… or reminiscing happy thoughts of the quality time spent … It never to late……
may kanya kanya tayong kwento ng buhay. ilagay din natin yung sarili natin dun sa mga anak na iniwan. d natin sila masisisi desisyon nila yun
Simple lang,HINDI KAYO MAGIGING GANYAN NGAYON KUNG HINDI NAGING GANYAN ANG TATAY NYO.. Hindi kayo naging ganyan kung hindi pinahintulot ng DIYOS na maging ganun ang tatay nyo , ikaw narin ang nagsabi, No one is blameless, even you… So then why you are also pointing your finger straight to your father rather than looking for a better reason why all these things happening ,and why He is doing all these mess?
haven’t you realized na
Hindi kayo matututong lumaban, di kayo matutong mag sumikap , hindi kayo matututong magmahal at di matuto ng maraming bagay kung hindi naging instrumento ang tatay nyo para maging ganyan kayo.. imagine kung nag iba ang storya nyo, maaring siguro hindi kayo naging successful, hindi kayo naging doctor etc,.. God placed your dad in your life that plays a very important role and a character to complete each and one of your family’s life story., , I believe GOD has a better plans for you.., Maaring kayo rin pala ang instrumento ni God para magbago ang tatay nyo, JUST DO NOT GIVE UP , No matter how much Pain He causes you, at the end of story , still He is your father, you can never changed that, now then you already had those wealth, and understanding , maybe you should ask God for a wisdom and for a righteous plan.
para sakin hindi parin buong kwento ang nilatag ng matandang ama… ang taging nakapag paliwanag lang ay ang anak.. .. nung nabubuhay pa ang aking ama . dahil sa kanyang pag lalasing at pag susugal..nasasaktan niya ang aking ina.. nakikita ko ang hirap ng aking ina sa pagtatrabaho.. sa labis na galit nasabihan ko ang aking ama na MAMATAY KA NA! .hindi ko alam kung masakit para sa kanya ang sinabi ko.. pero ang sigurado ako despite of everything naginawa niya nasaktan ako sa sinabi ko. umiyak ang puso ko.. sa pagkabata ko may mgaganda akong ala ala sa kanya na kahit mas maraming taon na naging iresponsable siya samin. ang puso at isip ko kumapit sa iilang magandang alala ng pagkabata ko. I LOVE YOU.. he never say that words to us.. pero namatay siyang nasa poder namin.namatay siyang nasa pag aalaga namin… namaty siyang lahat kami lumuluha.. huwag din muna natin i judge ang ama sa kwentong ito.. hindi lahat ng tao may tuwid napag iisip. nagiging rebelde nagigigng ibang tao sila dahil sa mga pinag dadaanan nila. may responsableng ama..may iresponsableng ama.. pero kahit sinong tao pa… hindi mag tuturong maging rebelde ka sa inyong ama.. kung naging masamang ama siya.. hindi yon ang dahilan para maging masamang anak ka.. anghirap mag bigay ng opinion lalo na hindi natin alam ang pinagdaanan ng ama… kung siya nga ba ang nasa likod nitong ginagawa niya.. sa edad na ganun may kakayahan pa bang siyang gawin ito…ang hirap maging ama..ang hirap din maging anak. . 🙁
my sympathy is on the family who where judged here as mga walang utang na loob. siguro kung si mr. timonera ay humingi ng tawad sa ginawa niyang pang-iiwan sa kanyang mga anak at sa kanyang tunay na asawa using social media, pwedeng masabi na dapat siyang makatanggap ng simpatiya. hindi dapat ganito na inilalantad niya pa ang mga ito sa kahihiyan sa kabila ng kanyang patong-patong na kasalanan. mr timonera deserves his life right now. it is the consequence of the life that he chose to live. anyway, he still deserves a chance habang buhay pa siya at walang makapagbibigay sa kanya ng chance na iyon kundi ang sarili nya rin. he has to really realize all his sins, repent from it (to God first then to his family). stop putting his family to public shame, and change. to all the bashers here…be responsible to your words, you’ll be judged according to the way you judge other people. Matt. 7:1. May God bless us all!
We’re living in the real world not in an ideal world. In an ideal world everything works perfectly, even things like what the father had done are forgiven. But we are in the real world. There are things that may be forgiven but cannot be taken back. Good relationships are built around trusts and that is what the father has broken. Actually they are pretty nice to their father since they have initially given him a chance but when trust is broken over and over again, then that led them to leaving him behind. I believe that was the best choice for them.
Luckily I have a good father. He’s not the ideal one for me but he has been a good provider and a teacher to us siblings.
Mga kapwa tao!
Kailangan pa rin ang pagmamahal sa magulang! natatandaan nyo bah ang kuwento sa banal na kasulatan ” Ang alibughang anak” ( the prodigal son) ?
At ang sabi ng DIOS AMA..mahalin ang mga magulang, ito lamang ang my utos na may PANGAKO.
at ang sabi pa..patawarin ang mga nagkakasala …ano ang kahihinatnan sa mga materyales na bagay sa inyong buhay..wala! dahil rin nyo madadala ang mga yan pag dumarating ang panahon na mawawala tayo mundong ito. Pero! pag binuhos mo ang pagmamahal sa kapwa..ay tinitiyak ko na kayo’y magtatamasa ng kaginhawaan sa kabilang buhay. Kaya, kapwa tao..wala tayong ibang gawin kundi tumulong at mahalin sa mga nangangailangan, anong malay mo..pag itoy nakagawa ng mabuti ay tiyak na ang DIOS AMA nasa lahit ay natutuwa at masaya sa ginawa mo. Sa ginawa mong mabuti sa bawat araw sa nga taong kailanangan ng tulong at pagmamahal ay maaring yan din ang paraan para maligtas ng iyong espiritu at kaluluwa.
Kapwa tao..huwag nang magpatumtumpik na gumawa ka ng mabuti. Ngayon mo na gawin! at huwag mong ipagpabukas pagkat ang buhay di natin piho. Sayang ang panahon pag di natin ginawa ito..
I don’t get it why some people take the side of the Dad. The daughters did what they could and even tolerated the dad’s irresponsibility for quite some time — this absolves them from any blame. The Dad chose not to change his ways and persisted in his selfish position.
Here is their mindset and I hope you can tell kung sino ang caring at sino ang makasarili sa kanilang dalawa:
Daugher is thinking :
We have supported you despite what you did in the past — even offered you a place to stay. But the financial support stops when you use it to fund you and your mistress’ lifestyle. It’s best we support our ailing mom who raised us.
Dad is thinking:
Wala na kaming pera ni mistress #4. Gigipitin ko ang mga anak ko sa US using social media. Kunwari hinahanap ko kahit alam ko ang mga number nila. Bah! I deserve their support! Tatay nila ako eh.
sabi nga ng nanay at tatay ko bilang magulang responsibilidad namin kayo, hindi nyo kami responsibilidad na pakainin, bihisan bigyan ng pera at kun anu-ano .sapat na ang respeto nyo bilang mga anak sa aming mga magulang. paglaki nyo magiging magulang din kayo at mararanasan nyo ang hirap namin para sa inyo. may kanya kanya kayo na buhay ,may sariling desisyon at pag tanda nyo ang maaari nyo lang gawin ay tulungan ang isat isa.. maaari nyo kami tulungan ilang mga magulang subalit di nyo kami kargo mga anak di namin pwede i-asa sa inyo ang buhay namin.
yaan mo napo sya nabibilang na rin ang araw nya sa mundo sana marealized nya nalang mga pgkakamali at humingi na lang sya ng tawad ky God, sa asawa nya at sa mga anak nya.
Bakit hndi na lang bigyan c tatay tutal kaunting panahon na lang naman ang ilalai nya dito sa mundo materyal na bagay lang naman ang hinihinge nya at hndi naman natin madadala yan kapag tayu ay namatay na kung hndi man xa mag sisisisi sa mga pag kukulang at pag kakaala nya hayaan na natin na ang dyos na ang humusga sa kanya bilang isang anak mau ty ubtayung mag patawad.
Bakit hndi na lang bigyan c tatay tutal kaunting panahon na lang naman ang ilalai nya dito sa mundo materyal na bagay lang naman ang hinihinge nya at hndi naman natin madadala yan kapag tayu ay namatay na kung hndi man xa mag sisisisi sa mga pag kukulang at pag kakaala nya hayaan na natin na ang dyos na ang humusga sa kanya bilang isang anak mau ty ubtayung mag patawad forgive Nd forget.
hindi lang sila ang anak. bakit di sya humingi ng tulong sa mga babae nya at anak nya sa iba. porket nasa ibang bansa kala nya maluwag. tanginang mga utak nyo yan
wow… akala ko kami lang ganito…. i can relate sa kwento we were been judge by other people not knowing what really happen inside the family…. kaya lahat ng bushers pls judging a person whom u heard their story will not give u complet details …. kaya pls ,,, lucky for you at d nyo na experience ang experience namin,,,, i told to my self i will never fight back my father let the people talk and ill prove to them that we still love our father dispite of the lapses…..
kaya kayong mga tatay na malilibog,bawas bawasan niyo pag may time,nakakasama kayo sa pamilya..
My dad was not perfect either. But then again he is my father na dapat nating respetuhin. My dad was basaguliro halos makapatay pa nga ng dalawang tao. He did a lot of bad things pero at the end of the day wala ako dito kung wala siya. Pinatawad pa rin namin si papa ko. Sana kahit di na kayo magpadala ng sa kanya o sumupurta man lang you will find it in your heart na mapatawad siya. 73 years old na din po yung tatay nyo. Nakikita naman ho ng Diyos kung mapagkumbaba at mapagpapatawad po tayo.
Ayokong magpakamalinis, magbait-baitang anak o magkunwaring matinong tao gaya ng gustong i-portray ng Janet na ito.
Produkto din ako ng broken family, our father (RIP) left us when I was about to go to college.
Hindi or walang nagtatanggi na ama nila ang matanda. Inamin naman ng mga anak yun.
Forgiving someone who continuously do wrong things to you, lalo na kung mahal mo sa buhay gumawa nito sa iyo, would definitely take time depende sa lalim ng sakit na ibinigay nito sa iyo.
Which sa kaso nila, hindi siguro ganun kadaling magpatawad lalo na kung paulit-ulit ginagawa sa kanila ang emotional stabbing, humiliation and extortion.
Adding bruises to an open wound would not make the wound heal fast. Lalala lang lalo ang sugat to the point na magnanaknak ito.
Andun yung punto ng pagpapatawad ng mga anak. Yun nga lang, andun din yung punto ng pagmamalabis nung ama. Sa case nila, forgiving in its real sense would surely take time.
Madaling magsalita para sa problema ng iba, pero sa sarili nating problema, mahirap umakto dahil maraming dapat i-consider bago ka magdesisyon. Kaya di mo pwedeng ilagay ang salita mo sa bibig ng iba.
Let’s face it, sa family natin, we only share the same DNA, the same surname and the same set of parents. But, looking at it on a different perspective, we are all separate & different individuals. We help and support each other because we love each other. BUT not because we owe it to them.
Siguro naman sa dami ng tinangap na reply ng Janet na ito eh, somehow, naliwanagan na siya sa sinabi at sa stand niya.
hindi po sa nanghihimasok ako sa pamilya ni mang napoleon..gusto ko lamang pong magbigay ng opinyon sa usaping ito..
kahit gaano man po kasama ng tao o sa miyembro ng ating pamilya..tatay mo pa rin po siya..alam ko pong wala akong karapatan maghusga. kung wala siya wala ka rin po.. siguro po hindi natin alam ang lahat ng sakripisyo’t hirap na ginawa ng ating mga magulang noong maliliit pa lamang tayo.. now i missed my father after he passed away 6 mos ago…
@GOOD actually hanggang ngayon kinikilala pa rin nila ng mga kapatid nya ang ama nila..kaya walang sinuman ang dapat magsabi sa kanila na “tatay,ama,father,dad nyo parin sya”.. sa estado ng buhay nila..sa values na pinakita nila sa istorya na to (na malamang sa nanay nila natutunan ang magandang asal, responsableng anak) siguradong alam nila na kung wala ang tatay nila eh wala sila sa mundong ito..(kahit batang nasa elementarya alam ito at isa pa hindi din issue ito)..at sa ating lahat silang magkakapatid lamang ang nakakaintindi ng sakripisyong sinasabi mo..baka naman gusto mo lang sabihin eh namimiss mo na tatay mo..which is ok at natural lang..pero sana yun na lang sinabi mo para di ka nagmumukang bobo.
The 4 daughters of Napoleon Timonera have done their part by giving him financial support despite he left them and their mother for another woman. He does not deserve any support for abandoning his family. Let him suffer and let him feel what he has done. He created a new family, let him work to support his new family by himself.
Blood makes you related. Loyalty makes you family.
I am a father of 2 and I insist to them that utang nila ang future nila samin, coz me and my wife are doing all our best to fulfill our obligations to them especially in financial, coz as a parent we knew that our oblibations are the most important in order to have a good children and a good netizens someday, and we are very much sure na di kami magiging pabigat sa kanila someday. Tnx to God.
We cannot judge an individual nor a family because we did not know what they had gone through..One thing I am sure of is..its the parent’s responsibility to raise their children with love and that later the children will reciprocate their parent’s love with love. Just remember the golden rule. God knows all the time our deeds..
Ang sa akin lang,just forgive your Dad.Past is past! Matanda na sya,who knows baka bukas mawala na sya..Atleast nagpatawad kayo…baka more blessings to come to your family!!God Bless!
@TET ang sa iyo lang?.kung pwede lang sayo na nga lang kasi mukang matagal na nila napatawad ang ama nila..kaya sa susunod sayo na lang ang sa iyo ha.
Hayy naku, relate much. Meron nga kaming tatay irresponsable naman, ni isa sa amin wala siyang napag tapos ng pag-aaral. kung hinde kami nag working students wala sana kaming narating ngayon. ang masaklap babaero pa, anak ng anak sa ibang babae tapos hinde man lng marunong sumuporta sa anak. Pero anong magagawa namin tatay namin siya at matanda na rin kaya bahala na ang Panginoong Diyos sa kanya. Tinanaw na lng naming utang na loob na nabubuhay kami sa mundong ito dahil sa mga parents namin. Kung pwede lng mamili ng tatay ginawa na namin. Hinde bali ng tricycle driver basta masipag at maalaga sa kanyang pamilya.
Madaling maging ama pero mahirap magpaka ama … Unang una walang obligasyon ang anak sa magulang nila bagkus ang magulang ang may obligasyon sa mga anak nila .. kaya nga habang bata pa ang mga anak dapat punuin sila nang pagmamahal para pag ikaw na ang dapat alagaan ay magiging magaan para sa kanila ang gawaing yan ….
by the way ama din ako at di ko sinasaksak sa isip nang dalawa kong anak na may utang na loob sila sa akin …
ang kailangan nila sa kanila ang pagpapatawad sa isat isa………
“Do not judge the book., by its own cover..” another thing is, everyone is entitle to his/her own opinion.,a lot of learning to be learned with this story., but the sad thing is a private story become public story that must be keep only within a family.,let us pray for good,. may God blessed us all..
Ay naku nga naman tayong pinoy always looking sa mga underdog… Kasi para sa akin bawat isa ay may paliwanag, remember all of us have a black side sa mga buhay. Well ang suggest ko lang kung ganito ang situation bakit pera ang ibibigay sa matanda pedeng basic needs foods, shelter, iyong tubig at ilaw pero kailangan sa kanya lang good for 1 person only!!! If mayroon siyang batang (25 years old) na kinakalantari ibang usapan na iyon kasi iyong babae ang siyang magtrabaho para sa kanyang sarili hindi dapat siya aasa sa kanyang asawa kasi matanda na nga si Papa Nap di ba tapos paaasawa pa siya???? Tinitigasan pa ba Si Papa Nap???? Just Joking pero tunay yon ha!!! May points din naman ang mga anak di ba. Kasi may kasabihan tayong Pilipino na mababayaran mo ang utang sa iyong magulang kapag ikaw ay naging magulang na rin. Sa mga anak ni Papa Nap masakit kasi binablackmail pala kau ng sariling ama kayat sa pagdaan ng panahon lalo lang tumitigas ang inyong mga puso para sa inyong Papa Nap normal outcome sa mga tao kasi hindi tayo santo na puros kamartiran lang… Kayat hayaan nyo na lang bakit kayo mahihiya sa puna ng mga tao kung sa inyong pusot isipan mas banal pa ang inyong ginagawa sa kanila.. Si God na lang ang bahalang magjudge sa atin pag tao ang namayapa. At last sa mga anak may experience akong natutunan hindi sa aking ama kung sa LOLO ko, parang ganyan ang ginawa sa nanay ko at pati sa aming mga apo noong kanyang kalakasan pa pero noong dumating na ang oras na gusto na niyang mamatay eh ang tagal nyang mamatay talagang pinahirapan siya until ako mismo ang gumawa ng paraan. Alam nyo ang ginawa ko!!!! Pumunta ako sa aming simbahan at kinausap ko ang aming Pari at sinabi ko ang pinagdadaan ng LOLO kong namuhay na mabangis sa mga anak at apo. Naunawaan ng pari ang aking sinalaysay sa kanya at kasama kong binigyan siya ng Holy Oil for sickness at pilit pinagkumpisal si lolo. At nagawa ng aming pari ang kanyang misyon. After 3 days patay ang LOLO ko ang sabi ng Pari effective ba ang Holy Oil for sickness nya ang sabi opo father then ang sabi ng Pari ang Holy Oil for sickness ay hindi para sa kanyang katawan kung hindi para sa kanyang spirit. Kayat kahit hindi na kaya ng katawan eh buhay pa rin siya kasi iyong spirit ng katawan niya ang bumubuhay sa kanya. Sanay ang opinion at paliwanag ko ay maintindihan din naman po pero bawat tao ay may side at opinion na dapat igalang…..
have we ever think why this old man keep looking for a younger kabit? is he not longing for somebody to look after him in the absence of his wife and children? na lumayo para umiwas sa pighati na ginawa ng ama sa kanila? if only forgiveness and reconcile was done earlier…hindi na cguro naghanap ng mga kabit paulit ulit ang matanda! on the part of mga anak na 4 sobrang hinanakit xempre ang naramdaman though hindi cla nagpabaya sa ama, patawarin na lng po sya, part of his imperfection at magpasalamat tayo na may hindi magandang pangyayari sa buhay natin na magsisilbing gabay para sa mga sarili nating pamilya balang araw,your tatays time is limitted na, mali man ang nagawa nya may magandang kapalit nman yun sa buhay nyo., mga tao lang tayo nagkakamali.
this is my 10 cents on this, i never got legal recognition from my father but the guy did everything to send me to the best schools. i wqs born out of wedlock and my parents never lived as a couple and yet my dad did what he was supposed to do. Mr. Timonera is old….and his own children out of respect that this man gave them life and for sure gave them love and attention before his indiscretions, MUST, even for humanitarian reasons give him a comfortable retirement for even for himself maski food, medicines and shelter….regulate if you must, spend extra to ensure proper dispersal of aid and resources…but you should never abandon your father kesihoda kung anu pang ginawa niya.
pwde nmang tulungan eh kaso wag bibigyan ng pera.. doktor nman mga anak nya. bigyan nlang nya ng maraming viagra. kc ganun din eh pag binigyan mo ng pera viagra din bibilhin nyan,. ikaw nman kc tay ang tanda mna ang libog mo pa! kaya k nangangayayat eh.. pahipahinga din sa chix pag may time.
In my own opinion, This situation is depend on the acceptance of the family members. Nobody knows the real situation because that was their personal problem. If they put God in the middle of their problem I’m sure there will be a good solution. Because love will prevail.
hayyyyy nakuuuu relate much
I salute you Sir Leon. Sana lahat ng magulang kapareho mo mag isip. Nakapagtapos ako ng pag aaral na hindi humihingi sa magulang ko kahit piso, nalaman nga lang nila na nag aaral ako ng graduating na ako , and I am proud to say na nakapagtapos ako sa isa sa mga prestigous University sa Manila. Kahit inintindi naming magkakapatid parents namin andun pa rin ung hinanakit na kung sana nagpaka magulang sila hindi nmin dinanas lahat ng hirap. And I am proud with my siblings, for growing up as a responsible and mature adults, hindi kami naniniwala na mapapariwara ang mga anak kapag produkto ng broken family, nasa tao lng un, kami ang pruweba 🙂 As for Dr. Ng, I feel you, my kinakasamang iba ang mother nmin ngaun at sa bawat bigay namin sa mother nmin ng support andun lagi ang doubt na sinusuportahan din nmin ung kinakasama nya plus may kids pa un,not my mothers.
Kaya po tatay Napoleon, maawa ka nman, kung tatay ka talaga hindi mu kailanman iisipin na kaladkarin sa posibleng kahihiyan ang mga anak mu, you should always think of what is the best for your childrens,hindi ung para sayo lang wag ka po makasarili.
It’s true being parent to our children is not easy but we have to raise them according to the will of God. Raise them properly and in the right time they will return it with joy and happiness not only in materials but knowing that they will choose the right path and do what is right I believe they will be our crown of glory and not a thorn to our heart. In the situation happened to our concern father, we have to pray that everything will be alright and soon they will learn to forgive their father whatever situation on the past still he is their father who are in need not only in the materials thing but the love that they have to show to him until his last breath. Understanding, caring and loving are what he needs now. Love your father whoever he is…… God bless you!!!!
masakit ang ginagawang pangtitiis ng mga anak sa kanilang ama sa ngaun.. pero masakit din ang ginawa at patuloy na ginagawa ng ama nila para sa kanilang ina at sa kanilang magkakapatid.. ang solusyon ay mag karoon sila ng unconditional love para sa ama at ganun din ang ama para sa anak..
hindi nyo kailangan bigyan ng pera ang tatay nyo.. totoong hindi nyo un obligasyon.. pero hindi rin naman siguro maituturing na masama kung ikuha nyo sya ng health card na para sa kanya at sa mga anak nya sa labas… masama ba na gawan nyo sya ng arrangement sa isang carinderia para may makain sa araw araw.. at iba pa na hindi nyo kailangan literal na bigyan ng pera ang tatay nyo pero matutulungan nyo.. dahil hindi man nyo ito obligasyon sa kanya … obligasyon nyo ito bilang mabuting anak.. kung itinuturing nyo na mabuti kayong mga anak…
at ikaw ama ka.. bawasan mo ang libog sa katawan… pambihira,,, selfish ka.. sarili mo lang kaligayahan ang iniisip mo.. kahit ang kabit mo pinagkakaitan mo ng tama… mahiya ka naman sa balat mo… 😛
it is good to break silence, now we knows the true story…
To those who wrote about forgiveness and supporting Mr. Timonera and asking the children to support the deadbeat father, why don’t you all do it “walk your talk.” Go ahead and do so on your own, you can find Mr. Timonera yourselves and feed him and his extra family.
He abandoned his family and made the choices on his own, therefore he should be able to take the consequences of his actions. The children cannot be part of the wrongdoing of their father. It is like condoning extramarital and abuse in the family. No one can forgive Mr. Timonera as he is not asking for forgiveness, he is asking for money. Man cannot forgive a person but can only pray for him. God forgives those who sincerely ask for forgiveness and a person who truly asks to be forgiven turns away from his sins and restore God’s ways. Mr. Timonera never did any of these.
Personally, if I were the children, I would not have had any contact with him of any kind nor look for him nor give him anything. He has chosen this lifestyle, his 25-year old should be able to work and support her own family. I do not know why these supposedly Godly people are pushing the children to support a person who continues to abuse his original family.
Pilipinos man. Welcome to their world, you’re either successful or a scumbag, no in between. I know many GREAT people from the Philippines but I know even more trash from there. It’s what happens when you’re raised in a shit every many for himself environment. What a shame.
ANG HULING MAG COMMENT AY CUTE xD
KAHIT NA ANUNG SABIHIN NG MGA MALDITA NYANG ANAK NA APAT,, WALA SILA DITO SA MUNDO,, KUNG WALA YAN TATAY NILA.. TARANTADO PALA YANG MGA ANAK NYANG APAT EH,,, KAHIT EREGALO PA NILA ANG BOUNG MUNDO SA TATAY NILA HINDI UN SAPAT PARA BAYARAN ANG PAGKALIKHA NILA DITO SA MUNDO, MAG REBELDENG ANAK YAN MGA YAN,.. KAHIT ANUNG GAWIN NG TATAY NILA ,,,WALA NA SILA PAKIALAM DUN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUAEQ8Db06g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVO7dksHz-s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZtow-T4iYs YAN PNOORIN NYO MGA YAN MGA MALDITANG APAT NA ANAK NYA ,, MAKINIG KAU NG LECTURE,.MGA MALDITANG WALANG UTANG NA LOOB ..
Mr. Leon Gore said the right thing! Nasabi nya lahat ng dapat sabihin! I admire him for his undying comments! Sana, ito ay magiging aral sa lahat ng ama! Umar… I read your comment: Eh kung sagutin ka ng mga anak nya na hindi namin ginusto ang mabuhay dito sa mundo! Kung pwede lang mamili ng ama, hindi sya pipiliin nito! You have to read the explanation of the children: Siya ang ayaw na tumira sa mga anak nya dahil ang gusto ay humingi ng malaking pera para pang tustus sa kaniyang bagong 24 years old na asawa! Bago kayo magbitaw ng salitaa sa inyong kapwa, you must see the TWO SIDES OF THE STORY and then, judge them! Ganun yon! Siya na ama ang ayaw sumama sa kanyang mga anak!! Kung hindi daw magbibigay ng maaking halaga ang mga anak nya, ay gagawa sya ng eskandalo!! Ikaw, ama ka, will you do this?? Just to feed your 24 years old na live-in? Wow!!